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Trump Reverses His Stance on Torture
WSJ.com ^ | 03/04/2016 | DAMIAN PALETTA

Posted on 03/04/2016 10:51:27 AM PST by GIdget2004

Leading GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump said Friday he wouldn't order the U.S. military to break international laws, addressing criticism from military and legal experts that his policies regarding torture and killing the family members of terrorists would violate the Geneva Convention.

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To: GunRunner

No.

But if they get in the way of us machine-gunning terrorists out to kill OUR women and children, tough. Collateral damage.

War is ugly. That is a fact jack and the only valid legitimate rules of engagement are find the enemy and kill the enemy because that is exactly what they will be doing to us.


141 posted on 03/04/2016 1:38:38 PM PST by ZULU (If you support Stokes or Obama, you are too stupid to own a gun.)
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142 posted on 03/04/2016 1:47:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: GunRunner

typical Trump Moron? FU.


143 posted on 03/04/2016 2:18:11 PM PST by RC one
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To: ZULU; sparklite2
Here we are folks. It's finally come to this.

On the question of finding terrorists' children, nieces, and nephews, and having Marines machine gun them to death against a wall outside their homes in the name of fighting terrorism, Trump supporter ZULU says No, Trump-supporter sparklite2 says Yes.

I'm glad the Republican party is disintegrating. Maybe Trump is the symptom, not the problem. If we can't agree on whether intentionally murdering innocent children by firing squad is illegal, immoral, and wrong, then that party has no core, and neither does whatever the hell FreeRepublic stands for (or used to).

It turns out the Republican base (and the Trump base specifically) isn't all that conservative after all, just as long as the right strongman is murdering the people who deserve to be murdered.

144 posted on 03/04/2016 2:23:50 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: Parley Baer

So let me get this straight.. repeating what TRUMP says makes me a liar? hmmmmm sounds like you have had far too much kool-aid.


145 posted on 03/04/2016 2:33:10 PM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: pollywog
Does Trump have ANY ISSUES he will not flip flop on??? He seems like a dying fish on shore...

Everyone does.
The only ones who never change their minds or opinion are those which forever remain children.

We are our experience and our learning and judgment.
When those change as we mature, opinions change correspondingly.

"Flip flop" is a term used by the limited in vocabulary and not too keen on critical thinking.

146 posted on 03/04/2016 2:45:48 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: paladinan

You’re trying to nitpick apart the obvious... in fact it sounds like you are arguing with your own fears.


147 posted on 03/04/2016 2:49:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GunRunner

Somewhere between that and inviting them to the White House, there should be a sweet spot.

Now all we need to do is determine just where that is.

I think just letting them know there is going to be many many eyes on them, will dampen down the motive to be wantonly jihadist.


148 posted on 03/04/2016 2:52:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: pollywog

I’d get the Etch A Sketch out but some of the diehard Trump supporters might have an issue with that.


149 posted on 03/04/2016 2:53:53 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: fooman
Well the Israelis bomb the homes of terrorists.

Apples and oranges. Too faulty a comparison to comment further.

Trump was referring to terrorist leaders and other high ranking lieutenants who drag their wives and children wherever they go as insurance against having a 500-pounder dropped down their throats.

Their choice, their decision, their responsibilities.

Morons or phonies choose to interpret Trump's statements to mean seek out the terrorist's families specifically and kill them.

Mind you, not that I have a problem with that!

150 posted on 03/04/2016 2:55:46 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: GunRunner

I.e. if they knew that being a terrorist family would vastly heighten their own odds of being caught in any attempted terrorist acts themselves, that would put a damper on it all.

This isn’t an infrequent case in Islamoterrorism.

The lesson is: keep a low profile or Donald is going to be watching you. It’s possible to “take out” a risk with sufficient scrutiny.


151 posted on 03/04/2016 2:58:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: publius911

Your way is another plausible way to take it... we can’t be playing footsie with their own families treated as human shields.

My way was that they would come under intensified surveillance, dampening down the desire to make terrorism into dynasties.

And neither one is that Donald is going to avenge it on their families just because they are their families.


152 posted on 03/04/2016 3:00:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GIdget2004
Please don't post articles that can't be read by the average Freeper.

It's irritating.

I have no need to subscribe to the Wall street journal, nor do I need to impress anyone.

153 posted on 03/04/2016 3:01:27 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Kit cat
I think this is what Trump was trying to communicate about the families!!!

I feel sorry for your emotional inferences.
I know that was not what he meant.

154 posted on 03/04/2016 3:03:56 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Sacajaweau
He'll scratch Obama's executive order on waterboarding and all those "Thou shalt nots"

You bet!
When the ones to pay the price for abysmal ignorance are additional American servicemen dead, it is beyond evil, actually aiding and abetting the enemy.

155 posted on 03/04/2016 3:08:51 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: publius911

Not apples and oranges at all. It is about collateral damage.

Sorry to see trump back off his stronger statement— especially in the context of illegal combatants as another freeper pointed out.


156 posted on 03/04/2016 3:10:19 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: reegs
Families of terrorists who knowingly allow terrorists to attack our interests without any recourse are no longer "civilians." They are part of a criminal enterprise.

And yes, I disagree with the 2006 Supreme Court ruling.

And if you really cared, the Geneva Convention, and your interpretation, also would NOT have allowed the assassination of bin Laden and his wives. I didn't hear you raising an issue then.

Rosen, cited in your points, says, "assuming the family members are not combatants themselves..." They ARE combatants both by commission and omission.

157 posted on 03/04/2016 3:11:15 PM PST by Solson (Trump plays to win. Deal with it.)
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To: Slyfox
Flip-flopping is what happens when someone is not anchored in the truth.

Or have an awareness beyond one's emotional "safe place."

158 posted on 03/04/2016 3:12:57 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Solson

Certainly, letting ISIS have its wish to become a country (the only non Geneva signatory) would also give it its wish to die for Allah with a minimum of muss and fuss.

I would expect to see a lot of bail-outs from ISIS very shortly after that happens.


159 posted on 03/04/2016 3:13:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: publius911

One can always choose God Himself as a safe place, and then you’re firm as a rock.


160 posted on 03/04/2016 3:14:05 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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