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Trump: I'm 'Changing' My Position on Immigrant Visas
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Posted on 03/03/2016 7:16:20 PM PST by nickcarraway

Donald Trump on Thursday night said he's changing his stance on visas for highly skilled immigrant workers.

"I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position because we need to have talented people in this country," Trump said at the Fox News GOP debate in Michigan.

Trump's comments came after debate moderator Megyn Kelly raised the issue. Kelly noted that Trump had previously opposed those visas, saying they "decimate American workers," but appeared to change his position at an earlier CNBC debate. Trump said recipients of the visas go to high-profile U.S. universities and "desperately" want to remain in the country. He said they should be allowed to stay and work in places that need high-skilled workers, such as Silicon Valley.

"We need highly-skilled people in this country," Trump said. "For that purpose, we absolutely have to be able to keep the brainpower in this country."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Georgia Girl 2

>>>Trump can’t come right out and say it but I can. We have to stop taking the scum of the earth into the US. Its going to ruin us financially and culturally.<<<

YOu are so right. WHY no one ever mentions ‘LOOK AT EUROPE’ is beyond me.

Citizens need to be informed as to what the USA will look like if we do not stop the unregulated influx of illegals and legals to some degree. Just look at Europe. A mess.


281 posted on 03/03/2016 11:05:02 PM PST by american colleen
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To: nickcarraway

From Trump’s website:

“Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions.”


282 posted on 03/03/2016 11:22:02 PM PST by TTFX
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To: ConservativeMind

Trump needs to clarify this H1B CRAP.

JUST SAY NO MORE H1B VISAS FOR 10 YEARS.

We have 110 percent of the necessary intelligent people to fill all of our Hi tech jobs. Trump is not going to get a single extra vote by going soft on this. Instead he will lose many votes.


283 posted on 03/03/2016 11:25:12 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Wpin

It was from an interview by NewsMax in 2012 with Trump:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Donald-Trump-Ronald-Kessler/2012/11/26/id/465363/

Donald Trump: Mean-Spirited GOP Won’t Win Elections

“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”

Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.


284 posted on 03/03/2016 11:42:04 PM PST by Reaper19
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To: Hostage; Kenny; Georgia Girl 2

Physicist Vasily can come in through regular legal immigration channels if we have a need for physicists.

500,000 PER YEAR PHP Python Vijays expand welfare, crime, indentured servitude, sex slavery (yup, that happens — look it up), depresses entrepreneurship, encourages monopolies, inferior product, and less competition.

It’s called a free marketplace of ideas, and STEM graduates working as Wal-Mart cashiers is a bad one.


285 posted on 03/03/2016 11:55:32 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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To: TTFX

LOL. Than what was he referring to? Because, yes, H-1Bs are skilled. Plus, he mentioned Silicon Valley! What workers was he talking about in SILICON VALLEY? It could only possibly be H-1Bs. Please give me another explanation.


286 posted on 03/04/2016 3:08:41 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Hostage

Do you know anything about scripting language or object-oriented languages?


287 posted on 03/04/2016 3:10:18 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: unsycophant

They already have to pay $15-$20k all in to get the H-1B worker on board, then the worker can take his H1-B to another company the next day.


288 posted on 03/04/2016 3:13:22 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Wpin

You are mixing apples and oranges. I am objecting to h1b visas for high techs. That program is an abomination.

I am not objecting to seasonal temp workers in a resort.

Cruz and Rubio know the difference, but act as if there is none.


289 posted on 03/04/2016 3:42:07 AM PST by amihow (l)
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To: patq

Like Disney?

It’s nice of you, though, to provide the details of a Trump plan for which Trump himself has provided none.


290 posted on 03/04/2016 4:10:15 AM PST by dmz
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To: nickcarraway; Mike Darancette
If I want a labourer couldn’t I get one on a H-1 visa?

Not on an H1B visa.

A bachelor’s degree or higher degree or its equivalent is normally the minimum requirement for the particular position;

The degree requirement is common for this position in the industry, or the job is so complex or unique that it can only be performed by someone with at least a bachelor's degree in a field related to the position;

The employer normally requires a degree or its equivalent for the position; or

The nature of the specific duties is so specialized and complex that the knowledge required to perform the duties is usually associated with the attainment of a bachelor's or higher degree.

https://www.uscis.gov/eir/visa-guide/h-1b-specialty-occupation/understanding-h-1b-requirements

For unskilled labor, you would (as Trump has used) need to go with a H-2B Visa.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/h-2b-temporary-non-agricultural-workers

Donald Trump to Foreign Workers for Florida Club: You’re Hired

291 posted on 03/04/2016 4:11:18 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Secret Agent Man

It’s scary, isn’t it.

Vote for the status quo, or vote for someone we have no idea about how he will govern, or where he will govern from.


292 posted on 03/04/2016 4:16:49 AM PST by dmz
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To: Lazamataz
That said, Trump needs to stop this s***.

Haven't you been saying that same thing for about a month?

293 posted on 03/04/2016 4:18:02 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: pilgrim

Horseshoe falls, I think that’s the Canadian side of Niagra Falls.


294 posted on 03/04/2016 4:27:51 AM PST by dmz
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To: Lazamataz

A little buyer’s remorse creeping in?

Starting to see some of that on this forum. And it’s a long way to November with a lot of words still to come out of his mouth.


295 posted on 03/04/2016 4:30:32 AM PST by dmz
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To: nickcarraway

Trump is very well aware of the problems in the H1B visa programs. His immigration policy statement addresses the way they take some jobs from Americans.
His statement of “softening” his position means exactly that. I believe he will stand firm in his commitment that the jobs go to Americans first, and the H1Bs already here may not all be kicked out if they are needed. His policy position doesn’t just address the numbers of visas awarded, but how it’s done which is the crux of the matter.

The H1B visa section from his website:
“Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs. We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program. More than half of H-1B visas are issued for the program’s lowest allowable wage level, and more than eighty percent for its bottom two. Raising the prevailing wage paid to H-1Bs will force companies to give these coveted entry-level jobs to the existing domestic pool of unemployed native and immigrant workers in the U.S., instead of flying in cheaper workers from overseas. This will improve the number of black, Hispanic and female workers in Silicon Valley who have been passed over in favor of the H-1B program. Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities.
Requirement to hire American workers first. Too many visas, like the H-1B, have no such requirement. In the year 2015, with 92 million Americans outside the workforce and incomes collapsing, we need companies to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed. Petitions for workers should be mailed to the unemployment office, not USCIS. “


296 posted on 03/04/2016 4:31:14 AM PST by visualops (It's the majority of the American people and Trump against the enemies of the republic - Windflier)
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To: Sacajaweau

What’s Trumps number. Oh, he didn’t say?

Very surprising, his lack of specificity.

All things to all people, you know.


297 posted on 03/04/2016 4:38:56 AM PST by dmz
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To: amihow

“You are mixing apples and oranges. I am objecting to h1b visas for high techs. That program is an abomination.

I am not objecting to seasonal temp workers in a resort.

Cruz and Rubio know the difference, but act as if there is none.”

I have to agree with you to some extent, However...truthfully a few years ago I have an internet company and needed very highly skilled programmers. 2 out of 4 that I had were under the H1B visa. I didn’t plan it that way, it just worked out that way. I needed pretty specific technology and while I didn’t go to extraordinary lengths to not hire foreigners, I would have if I hadn’t hired them. It is a tough question to figure out how many should be allowed at any one time. We do not want to undermine hiring Americans, but we also do not want to undermine our tech businesses. I think the resolution is in how many we allow each year.


298 posted on 03/04/2016 4:53:25 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Reaper19

You understand he is talking about the marketing of the idea...in a humane way...he is very strong about illegal immigration. And, I trust he will resolve it, but you need to understand Trump is really a very compassionate good man. He will not pull people out of their homes in the middle of the night, but he will have them move...mostly on their own back to their home nation.


299 posted on 03/04/2016 4:56:27 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: nickcarraway
Because Session's says they are so now Trump says they are. Brainless robot like Rubio with the GOPe

Better hope Sessions does not keel over or piss Trump off. All bets will be off then and Trump will be adrift AND angry.

300 posted on 03/04/2016 5:38:07 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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