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Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
NBC News ^ | 03/02/2016 | Ali Vitali

Posted on 03/02/2016 8:46:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: AFreeBird; marktwain; grania; Paul R.

Truly terrific, thoughtful answers. I appreciate you all.


301 posted on 03/03/2016 6:10:15 AM PST by KittenClaws ( Normalcy Bias. Do you have it?)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Cruz continues to say that Trump is for Obamacare and for expanding Obamacare he is official lying.


302 posted on 03/03/2016 6:11:32 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: grania

Cruz did. Repealing every word is getting rid of the mandate.

BOOM!


303 posted on 03/03/2016 6:11:41 AM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

It will take us many generations to turn this country around, we need to do it step by step as they did, this is a start.
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You are right, of course.


304 posted on 03/03/2016 6:12:10 AM PST by KittenClaws ( Normalcy Bias. Do you have it?)
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To: DoodleDawg; Liz

If you want a ‘Cloward and Piven’ candidate to collapse the system, Hillary or Sanders would do nicely.

But please bear in mind, you would be abandoning the low-info patriots who have just now unplugged from the matix. If they conclude that the fix is in, that there’s no way to avoid a President Hillary, they will plug themselves back in the matrix and wait for doomsday.


305 posted on 03/03/2016 6:12:32 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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To: All
O.M.G. We're all going to die. Trump's health care plan is not perfect so we should stop him in his tracks, suffer with ObamaCare and wait for congress to act. /s

That said, this is a plan the country could unite behind. Best of all, this plan could put ObamaCare six feet under and give health care choices back to We the People.

306 posted on 03/03/2016 6:12:40 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Ciexyz
"I’m ticked because my copays and monthly payments went up which means I’m subsidizing people who are getting it for nothing. Does that make me hard-hearted??"

No...that does not make you hard hearted...it just makes you poor...just like them...and THAT makes you more dependent on the stinking government and THAT is what the plan was from the beginning...

When the government controls your purse strings they control your liberty.... It takes a strong man to disregard the economy of house, home and family in order to keep his freedom...

And as far as I know...it doesn't cost the stinking politician a single red cent of the best insurance coverage that your money can buy... What a county, right comrade..??

307 posted on 03/03/2016 6:13:26 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
If you want a ‘Cloward and Piven’ candidate to collapse the system, Hillary or Sanders would do nicely.

Just because I recognize Trump's plan as being ineffective why do you assume I want to collapse the system? Or that I support Clinton or Sanders?

308 posted on 03/03/2016 6:14:54 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: blackdog

He can’t keep his story straight! He changes positions so much, it makes me dizzy!


309 posted on 03/03/2016 6:15:39 AM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Most of the erroneous costs of medical care are the result of rampant lawsuits.


310 posted on 03/03/2016 6:19:15 AM PST by PJBankard (I wouldn't let Obama or Hillary run my Dairy Queen - Wayne Allen Root)
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To: Cobra64

No. Ensure=/= allow. The premise of that statement was false.

Then you go off that to accuse someone who wants govt OUT of a business of being a Socialist. REALLY?


311 posted on 03/03/2016 6:19:23 AM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: SeekAndFind

"The government's gonna pay for it" -- (D)onald Trump

[The Trump Tapes: Vol. 1]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE


That's (D)etail enough.

312 posted on 03/03/2016 6:20:12 AM PST by HLPhat (Preventing Global Cooling one tank full at a time!)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic; KittenClaws; eartick; Liz; DoodleDawg

Blessed be the peacemakers ....

Cruz supporters care deeply about the USA.

Trump supporters also care deeply about the USA.

BOTH plans do MORE than repeal Obamacare, they actually reverse the trend. Let’s not forget, even before Obama, healthcare was perhaps second to the airline industry in over-regulation.

With these changes? Healthcare savings accounts? Fairness in tax deductions the same as employers? Interstate competition? DE-regulation.

Perhaps Cruz should take the credit for this plan, as eartick pointed out. It’s almost the same as the Cruz plan.

And it reverses the ‘anti-freedom’ trend!

For the first time in our lives. No one is old enough to remember freedom increasing in healthcare.

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One more thing: I had heard Trump tell Hannity that our health insurance covers a lot of things we will never need. It’s not mentioned in his plan, but he wants families to opt out of abortion coverage for example. And perhaps other kinds of leftist-agenda costs. Such as AIDS coverage? Who knows?


313 posted on 03/03/2016 6:22:07 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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To: KittenClaws

Either you didn’t read Trump’s position paper, you didn’t understand it, or you are outright misrepresenting it.


314 posted on 03/03/2016 6:22:13 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DoodleDawg

You said to ‘crush the car’. Sorry to misunderstand you. I am very concerned about Cruz supporters who might be ‘too cool for school’ if Trump gets nominated. They promise to go ‘Cloward and Piven’ on us.


315 posted on 03/03/2016 6:23:45 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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To: KittenClaws

Thanks KittenClaws.

Actually, the conservative point of view would be that everyone pay for their own health care and have catastrophic insurance for a devastating illness or disease.

I see most here calling for insurance companies to cover everything as long as they have affordable premiums.

For instance car insurance doesn’t cover oil changes or tires, it only covers an accident.

Health insurance should be the same but over the years we’ve been conditioned to not even pay for a yearly check up let alone our own prescriptions.


316 posted on 03/03/2016 6:28:39 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: PJBankard
Most of the erroneous costs of medical care are the result of rampant lawsuits.

And third party payers.

317 posted on 03/03/2016 6:29:25 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: DrewsMum
BOOM!

Sounds good, but how do you get congress to go along?

318 posted on 03/03/2016 6:30:22 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Ciexyz

$3 Billion lost to Cancer drug waste.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3404053/posts

What has got to be stopped is the ads for new drugs, they cost more than older proven ones. Useless drugs are another issue. FDA flagged drugs should be pulled from the market. Hospital test that should take 3 hrs take 5 and you are let go totally Dehydrated because no one is trained to spot it.

I have to have a new monthly script for the pain med I have to take, and it must contain the term CHRONIC PAIN or the Military Dispensary will only fill it for 2 weeks. I live chronic level 8/9 pain from several health conditions none of them fixable. Why do I need to see the Primary every 3 months just for script refills for some meds? Then need test to make sure they aren’t killing my liver or kidneys? It they are that dangerous why are they on the market?

Foreto the Osteoporosis drug is DOUBLE FDA Flagged, why is it still on the market and being pushed by doctors who don’t tell the patient the facts about it being flagged?

Saw my Primary Monday for script refills, as we are DOD MANDATED to use Military Base or Express Scripts, not all drugs are available at the base. You fill at the Base, but refill out of Pensacola for our area and the bottles for tiny pills are huge instead of fitting the medicine. Then you have the issue of what to do with the drugs that cause bad reactions that are very expensive with just 1 or 2 pills. Why not go to a trail dose to weed out this issue of having to throw away a $400 bottle of medicine because you had a horrid reaction to just 1 or 2 pills?

You can’t donate them to a health clinic for the poor even. If you dispose of them properly you have to take them to a private pharmacy as the Military Base won’t take them back.

Our co-pays went up last year, NO COLA raise this year, Medicare went up last year too. And we get less coverage thanks to the THIEVES in Congress stealing the money from Medicare and Tricare Life to fund Obamacare.


319 posted on 03/03/2016 6:39:30 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: Jim Robinson
And I do believe medicaid is a state program.

It is partially, significantly, funded by the feds and has significant federal strings attached to receive those funds. Iowa is trying to move all its medicaid patients to managed care. It needed federal waivers to accomplish that and had to push the its timetable back twice before gaining federal approval. Kasich has, controversially, increased medicaid in Ohio with up front federal financing amounting to a tax on those in other states up front, but increased costs for Ohio in out years — a typical political scam and one Kasich, typically, denies. Government provided healthcare for the poor should be managed and funded locally and transparently in ways that minimize political posturing. And it should be limited to basic care as it would have to be offered equally, as a 'right,' to any that meet basic income, etc. requirements. Private charity care should be encouraged. It will be more efficient than government care and provide services beyond it. But receiving private charity is a privilege, not a right. It can be denied to whomever that charity deems undeserving. If you don't like the restrictions a charity places on its offerings, offer your money to a charity you prefer.

320 posted on 03/03/2016 6:40:51 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been R Liberal. Hope Changed)
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