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China takes Philippine atoll
Philstar ^ | March 2nd, 20016 | Jaime Laude

Posted on 03/01/2016 6:17:32 PM PST by ch.man

MANILA, Philippines – The Chinese have taken over another traditional Filipino fishing ground near Palawan where they have stationed up to five ships to keep local fishermen at bay, sources said.

Now effectively under Chinese control is Quirino or Jackson Atoll, which has been a rich source of catch for a long time for fishermen from Palawan, Southern Luzon, Western Visayas and even Manila.

Gray and white Chinese vessels have not left the atoll, which Filipino fishermen also call Jackson Five, because of the existence of five lagoons in the area.

The Chinese are claiming almost the entire South China Sea, including the West Philippine Sea. Manila is contesting Beijing’s claim before an international arbitral court based in The Hague.

Filipino fishermen lamented the Chinese vessels would not allow them to come near or linger in the Quirino Atoll.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atoll; atollprc; china; chinaaggression; filipino; india; jackson; jackson5; jacksonatoll; jacksonfive; obamalegacy; palawan; philippines; quirino; quirinoatoll; redchina; southchinasea; westphilippinesea
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To: soycd

That’s nuts.
The only Islamic countries mainly affected are Malaysia and Brunei. And the economic class in Malaysia are Chinese and Indian, and Brunei is about as Islamic as Rihanna.
The rest are Singapore, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, the Philippines and Taiwan. Shipping lanes Westward for South Korea and Japan also.
This is important.


41 posted on 03/01/2016 6:48:54 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

I’d like to see Duterte raise this as a campaign issue.
Noy Noy the idiot certainly has failed.


42 posted on 03/01/2016 6:49:39 PM PST by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: knarf

Yes, I know very well.
I have been asking people to look at maps.
Some people seem inclined to make stupid comments.
Like worrying about Muslims living on coral reefs underwater at high tide.


43 posted on 03/01/2016 6:50:27 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

certain submarines deploy naval assets nicely


44 posted on 03/01/2016 6:55:22 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: dadgum

Yes, but this was a failure going back four decades.
Its very expensive to catch up in a hurry. Noynoy has not helped much with the budget, at least not enough to meet the need.
The PAF just started receiving 12 Korean FA-50’s (fast multirole trainers capable of some air defense), but thats just a tiny beginning.
The rich neighbors like Korea, Taiwan, Japan should consider helping out. These are THEIR shipping lanes.


45 posted on 03/01/2016 6:56:58 PM PST by buwaya
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Jeff Head

Ping


46 posted on 03/01/2016 6:57:19 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling 2016 to restore our God given unalienable rights and Liberty's)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Unfortunately, the PN has never had a submarine.


47 posted on 03/01/2016 6:57:43 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Wilderness Conservative

You would?

Well that’s nice to know...


48 posted on 03/01/2016 7:03:29 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: buwaya

” we get by with a little help from our friends “


49 posted on 03/01/2016 7:03:56 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: ch.man
Wars today are fought “come as you are.” It take years, sometimes decades to build up military forces. The Philippines are screwed, but so are we. The damage done to the US these last few years has been immense. Obama is, of course, to blame, but so are the Republicans who negotiated and agreed on the massive cuts, including Sequestration.
50 posted on 03/01/2016 7:06:23 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: LeoWindhorse

The PI is indefensible and always was.
Its an archipelago that is easily crippled by anyone with dominance of the air and sea. Its a place that can be blockaded internally.
The only way it could, ever, defend itself was in alliance with a great power. It could never have the economic capacity to create and maintain navies and airforces sufficient to defend itself against an enemy great power.


51 posted on 03/01/2016 7:07:53 PM PST by buwaya
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To: LeoWindhorse

If it were a perfect world that’s exactly what should happen. They have no business being there, and the only reason it’s being allowed is because no one in that region is able to give them a good ass kicking. Except maybe the Japanese if they can ever get it up.


52 posted on 03/01/2016 7:07:54 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: ch.man

It’s the Chinese version of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.


53 posted on 03/01/2016 7:08:11 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: buwaya

Yes.
They are desperate to get a US base now.


Maybe they will offer to pay for some new US Navy ships.


54 posted on 03/01/2016 7:08:25 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: oldplayer

Well, I would never put a far too late knee jerk reaction from a Dumbocrat.

That’s why you need to counter this crap before it starts...(stitch in time saves nine)

This keeps up and we will have a global meltdown within 15 months..

Freekin Libs.....and now it seems the freekin isolationista’s have made a comeback.


55 posted on 03/01/2016 7:08:59 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Enterprise

Yes, soon enough everyone there will be receiving offers they cant refuse.


56 posted on 03/01/2016 7:10:06 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

It is true that the PH navy is quite weak, but...... I am in a place here where I see what is going on. Filipino coast guard vessels staying in harbor for weeks without doing any patrol at all. The crew is just tending to their meals, their laundry and their wives for the week-end.

Talk about an efficient use of the available assets.... LOL


57 posted on 03/01/2016 7:10:07 PM PST by ch.man
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To: laplata

US ships are too expensive.
More cost effective would be Russian SAM systems.
If they will sell them, and if they aren’t sabotaged.


58 posted on 03/01/2016 7:11:29 PM PST by buwaya
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59 posted on 03/01/2016 7:12:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: ch.man

You noticed.
Its been the same for 50 years.
Patrolling is expensive. You pay for fuel and maintenance.
The PN runs on a shoestring and always has.


60 posted on 03/01/2016 7:13:05 PM PST by buwaya
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