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Mercedes replaces robots with people on its assembly line
engadget.com ^ | 02/25/2016

Posted on 02/25/2016 5:50:01 PM PST by BenLurkin

"Robots can't deal with the degree of individualization and the many variants that we have today," said the company's head of production Markus Schaefer. "We're saving money and safeguarding our future by employing more people."

The change comes at a time when a number of companies are replacing people with robotic devices. International Federation of Robotics (IFR) released a survey today stating that 1.3 million of the industrial robots will be in use by 2018. In fact, the number of those machines rose 43 percent in a year between 2013 and 2014. However, as Mercedes continues to expand the options available on its vehicles, the robots aren't able to adapt to new tasks. They're better suited for doing the same jobs repeatedly.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automakers; automotive; mercedes; robots

1 posted on 02/25/2016 5:50:01 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Humans are better than machines to do work. A robot is only as good as the idiot who programmed it.


2 posted on 02/25/2016 5:52:17 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: txnativegop

Back in the 80s we used to joke that Roger Smith’s goal at GM was to replace every assembly line worker with two EDS robot programmers.


3 posted on 02/25/2016 5:55:35 PM PST by nascarnation (RIP Scalia. Godspeed)
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To: BenLurkin
When I was in college I took a course in human resources management. There was a fascinating case study about the HR implications of robots in the auto manufacturing business. The study cited two opposite examples of how to use robotics right, and how to do it the wrong way.

One company -- I think it was Ford -- looked for the most cost-effective way to replace as many humans as possible on the assembly line. This was difficult to implement because they ran into all kinds of opposition from the UAW.

Another company -- I think it was Volvo -- interviewed their workers and asked them what parts of their jobs they hated most. They then went about designing robots to replace those particular functions. As a result, the union was thrilled to see the robots added to the assembly process.

Kind of interesting how that all works ...

4 posted on 02/25/2016 5:56:22 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Bye bye, William Frawley!)
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To: nascarnation

are robots really cheaper than human labor? How expensive is it to repair those robots when something breaks?


5 posted on 02/25/2016 5:57:30 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: BenLurkin

“...the robots aren’t able to adapt to new tasks. They’re better suited for doing the same jobs repeatedly.”

The robot will do what it’s told to do. Unless Mercedes is thinking hiring some of those “refugees” will be cheaper and enable them to better suck up to the gov’t.


6 posted on 02/25/2016 5:57:35 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: txnativegop

I think these days, the industry best uses robots where there is heavy lifting (ex: installing windshield) or safety concerns (ex: welding).


7 posted on 02/25/2016 6:00:05 PM PST by nascarnation (RIP Scalia. Godspeed)
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To: txnativegop

Robots have their place, and a multi-axis CNC machine can produce better parts than even a skilled machinist. But it is not a toolmaker, and that is a skill you can’t teach a machine. Many of the toolmakers I have worked with over the years have been artists, who made tools that were as much a work of art, as tool.


8 posted on 02/25/2016 6:01:16 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

Tool and Die guys are dying breed unfortunately.

what is wrong with a having a job that requires some amount of physical labor? this country has become a lazy, desk-bound bunch, imo.


9 posted on 02/25/2016 6:03:34 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: BenLurkin

Hey! Don’t silicon-based citizens have any rights? Is no one concerned about depressed, unemployed robots hanging out at the dump, rusting and overdosing on hydrolytic fluid?


10 posted on 02/25/2016 6:03:37 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: BenLurkin

Interesting... this looks like the difference between mindless trends and knowledgeable planning.

Robots can do great stuff today and the technology has never been better. And yet we have not ginned up any respectable kind of artificial intuition. We find ourselves climbing a daunting complexity mountain. Maybe our models of intelligence, in fact, are wrong. Maybe the theologians had it right when saying we were empowered by a divinely sustained soul, and there’s much more to it than our bodies.


11 posted on 02/25/2016 6:19:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BenLurkin

The use of robotics depends on the job being done. Some are simple and repetitive and can be more effective with machines like welding a certain spot quickly on an assembly line.

Others require more human thinking and judgement. It’s been this way forever.

And as many or more jobs are created to operate, maintain and audit the computers and robots.

I worked in a factory in Ft. Smith (Whirlpool - made refigerators) in the summer of 1977 and 1978 while I was in college. Anyone thinking that’s as far in life they want to go and work there for years and years are not the brightest bulb in the box. Some jobs were literally putting small pieces of plastic into a hole to help seal the unit before foaming.


12 posted on 02/25/2016 6:27:27 PM PST by Fledermaus (Trump: I Don't Trust Him. Pandering isn't pretty.)
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To: txnativegop

These days, a skilled toolmaker is a hard guy to find.

And the ones who are artists, trained by company sponsored apprentice programs, are exceedingly rare these days. They were the ones with real talent.


13 posted on 02/25/2016 6:28:54 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: txnativegop
Humans are better than machines to do work. A robot is only as good as the idiot who programmed it.

...and maintains it, cleans it, repairs it....

I have learned a thing about manufacturing with robots. The number of employees goes down but not by as much as you might think. The offset is the higher skilled tech folks that must program and maintain the robots (engineers). The real savings (I've seen) is in the consistent productivity and the consistent quality control.

14 posted on 02/25/2016 6:38:12 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: txnativegop

They also need to be monitored and maintained. A malfunctioning or slightly maladjusted robot will happily plug along ruining materials until corrected.


15 posted on 02/25/2016 6:44:44 PM PST by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: txnativegop

That ‘idiot” that programmed the robot in all likelihood makes several times what you make. Now if you could get paid for making ‘idiot posts, well...


16 posted on 02/25/2016 6:49:31 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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17 posted on 02/25/2016 7:00:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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18 posted on 02/25/2016 7:30:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: txnativegop
Humans are better than machines to do work. A robot is only as good as the idiot who programmed it.

Somewhat. It depends upon the task. The key is to figure out where they make sense, and where they do not.

Something I found to be an interesting bit of trivia, is that Rolex watches are now almost entirely manufactured by machines. There is one part that has to be done by hand, however, and that is putting the numbers and markers on the dial. Apparently a machine can't do the job as well as a human being.

19 posted on 02/26/2016 6:21:56 AM PST by zeugma (Lon Horiuchi is the true face of the feral government. Remember that. Always.)
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To: Trod Upon

Precisely. My uncle had a friend who works in a auto factory and ‘a whole damn lot’ of cars were absolutely ruined when it was discovered that a robot had gone through the motions of welding without actually turning on the torch. A human would have ruined MAYBE one or two cars before going “hey, WTF, this thing ain’t working.”


20 posted on 02/27/2016 7:11:03 AM PST by Laser_Ray
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