Posted on 02/23/2016 11:34:59 AM PST by Swordmaker
The Justice Department is pursuing court orders to force Apple Inc. to help investigators extract data from iPhones in about a dozen undisclosed cases around the country, in disputes similar to the current battle over a terrorist's locked phone, according to people familiar with the matter.
The other phones are at issue in cases where prosecutors have sought, as in the San Bernardino, Calif. terror case, to use an 18th-century law called the All Writs Act to compel the company to help them bypass the passcode security feature of phones that may hold evidence, these people said.
Privacy advocates are likely to seize on the cases' existence as proof the government aims to go far beyond what prosecutors have called the limited scope of the current public court fight over a locked iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino shooters.
Law enforcement leaders, however, may cite the existence of the other cases as evidence that the encryption of personal devices has become a serious problem for criminal investigators in a variety of cases and settings.
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Surprise surprise surprise
Camels nose eyc
That it was not a single phone that what the govt wants is to get into all phones. This is the first dtep
You mean those fine, up-standing refugee immigrants that were VETTED by this same govt?
/s....I wish
Am I the only one who things ALL ‘laws’ should have a sunset clause? An 18th century Writs Act?
Right, but Apple's point is that Apple does not currently have the ability to unlock the phones. That was a selling point for ios 8 (and later), and a strong one: in an era when people read every day about hackers and government snooping, Apple's ability to accurately proclaim that their phone is so secure that not even Apple itself can crack it is pretty damn valuable.
Giving in to the government's demand here would obliterate that selling point.
Faith, hope, and charity begin at home. It is imperative that critical information, especially concerning the war on Terrorism, should be everybody’s business.
I also believe in peoples individual right to privacy, and believe that both needs can be met. As with all corporations, certain levels of secrecy are in place for product protection, and in the case of government contracts, national security concerns. I do not think the Government needs to know HOW to get the information, but I do think that if they need it, Apple should supply it, provided they do it INHOUSE, and then return the phone, and the information for that specific phone, upon a court order.
Failure to do what they can to support the safety and security of the United States, and its people, is unacceptable.
IMO, those on the left will fight against this until it affects them very personally, then quickly change opinions. I see this happen very often.
IMO it is a mistake on Apples, or for that matter ANY manufacturer to create and sell, in America, any database, that cannot be accessed in an emergency, and again IMO should not be able to sell, or have imported into the USA any product that creates a security problem.
“I mean forcing someone at gunpoint to use his skills, knowledge, and time to do the bidding of others sounds a lot like slavery to me.”
You mean like welfare, O’Care, foreign aid, crony Capitalism, MediXYZ, property taxes, Civil Rights Act, etc.....
‘Bout 100+yrs. too late. The income tax (regardless of how ‘flat’) is a direct affront to the 4th, 5th, 13th.
Perhaps they intend to dig 'me up, try them then imprison 'me for life (no death penalty in Liberal land, ya know), so they'll have to spare no expense in trying to revive them), and then Obambi can pardon them on his way out of office.
If dead people can vote, then they certainly can be prosecuted for their crimes.
Two weeks ago it was one iPhone. Now it’s 12. What’s next, 144? 1728?
After running this by my better half, she said that New York City stated that they have 175 phones that they need into. SO I see the slippery slope. But...
I think the court order requirement, is in place to protect everyone. Sure anything can be abused. But, in the matter of National Security, every law abiding citizen should be in favor of doing whatever they can to protect this country.
Now, do I think it should be made public? No, not really. I don’t think we should tell our enemies that we have the means to crack the code. Example: Enigma Code. Quietly and quickly do what you can to solve the problem. And keep the media out, unless abuses arise.
But the government said it was only ONE phone. Do you suppose they lied about it? The government would never lie to us would they? Say it ain’t so Joe, say it ain’t so.
Looking for other terrorists, contacts, etc.?
If personal internet security is broken, then the 2nd amendment...we are at 1984.
America needs to realize how close we are to 1984.
Ironic that law enforcement is the most contemptuous of the “rule of law”.
I believe that to be a lie, or at the very least a seriously misleading statement.
What the FBI has asked them to do is to remove the number of tries for entering a password, and to remove the delay for retrying another password entry.
Apple can update the firmware of a locked phone, and since it only takes a simple and minor code change to remove the number of tries and the delay time, Apple could do what the FBI has asked them to do in less than a day.
They just don't want to do it.
Giving in to the government's demand here would obliterate that selling point.
The government, in enforcing the law, should not be primarily concerned with what is profitable for Apple.
Can you imagine a Bank advertising that their safety deposit boxes were so secure that you could hide murder evidence in them?
I think any government would have a legitimate objection to that.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/3559f46e-d9c5-11e5-98fd-06d75973fe09.html#axzz411czelU6
Bill Gates wades in to the fray...
Bring as I am extremely cynical of ANYTHING the government says, maybe the goal, all along, was ALL of them.
In this Apple case, it is Apple that may be found in contempt of the law.
But anyone can write their own code to encrypt their messages to their friends, and defeat any government spies.
Are you going to make writing homemade encryption code illegal?
If I write code, is it your business (under the premise of your conception of “national security”) that I can or cannot sell the code I write?
where does this premise of national security, in theory allowing you to oversee and regulate my business, end?
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