Posted on 02/19/2016 12:41:31 PM PST by kevcol
Ramadan Saeed Shakir is the mayor of Islamville, an all-Muslim town of about 300 people located in the northern woodland of South Carolina.
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"It's very sad that one of our national presidential candidates is speaking so much ill will about Islam and Muslims."
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
I'm not holding a grudge. No at all. I needed a legitimate way to prove to fr poster odd - that I was not here posting at FR during 2009 - and your post #55 on February 4th, allowed me to prove that - beyond a doubt!
Of course - I know that your mind is incapable of seeing why I wisely reflected back on -and posted that #55 of yours. This is why you'd never make a good cop or detective...as you obviously have limited capacity sister - - to see (read/decipher) the actual facts that matter -when they are right here in your face.
Oh, and one more thing I just spotted. I see you used the word "potential" - -
"Your holding a grudge even after I admitted a potential error...."
Why are using the word-- "potential"...it was Not a 'potential' error ....it WAS an error. I proved it was an error in that thread! You can't fool the readers, what are you doing now? !!
And I'm not trying to come bashing down hard on you, but ...if I were you, I'd be trying to figure what to post now - to make yourself right with the readers and to seem more honest.
Exactly
How’s about you just get over your unbelievably overwrought high dudgeon and just carry on with your life. Good grief, you certainly do have a serious cross to bear, what with the likes of me not accepting a puerile browbeating.
Good night, sir. Or madam.
“[And remember, Valerie Jarrett, the woman who when addressing students at Stanford University in 1977 said, “I am an Iranian by birth and of my Islamic faith. I am also an American Citizen and I seek to help change America to be a more Islamic country.”
Yeah, that will work.....in HELL.
“I think we have a sleeper here. “
The “sleeper trolls” always come out when election time rolls around. I see at least 2 dozen who rarely post anything, but now come out to boost Rubio, or trash Trump. Very predictable.
They deserve to feel unsafe. Payback is hell, isn’t it muzzie?
We can also see that no self respecting American wants to live around them.
He’s got a sleeper cabal in his cabinet and those that frequent the White Hut.
Oh yeah......THAT guy!
LOL
Firstly, you don’t need to lecture me about Islam. You do need to read my previous posts on FR regarding it; to put it mildly, I’m not a fan.
Secondly, I’ve looked into Stanford University archives and there is no record of Valerie June Bowman in 1977 saying what you quoted: “”I am an Iranian by birth and of my Islamic faith. I am also an American Citizen and I seek to help change America to be a more Islamic country. My faith guides me and I feel like it is going well in the transition of using freedom of religion in America against itself”.
In fact I can’t find anything she said that refers to her allegiance to Islam or being Muslim, in 1977.
Thirdly, It is a fact that American citizens voted for Obama (another person who is accused of being a ‘Muslim in disguise’), TWICE, 2 TERMS. For the record, I neither like or trust Jarrett or Obama.
But when you quote someone (no matter how vile they may be) the onus is on you to provide objective and actual proof; not tell others to go and do research and find out for themselves - it makes you look evasive, or an outright liar.
In summary, Valerie June Bowman (aka Valerie Jarrett) may be sympathetic to Muslims or Islam, but no more so than many other born and raised American citizens, with true blue American heritage, including notable ones such as James Earl Carter Jnr.
Good!!!! Now GTFO.
Hey don’t lump me in with the others - I never accepted she was a Muslim just because she was born in Iran during the Shah’s era. Iranian Shiaism is also not a proselytizing version of Islam. It is tuned more into being Muslim Shia Iranian ethnic identity.
Only pinged you for info. Because I saw the comments you exchanged with that poster earlier in this thread.
Continue to standby, I’m just now working on my reply to you.
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To: BeadCounter
"Unfortunately, there is much more of a chance of the USA becoming a Muslim nation, most likely by default. And, taking every other non-muslim nation with it. We have already witnessed the direction the USA has taken towards Islamization in the last 15 years, at least."
"No need to argue the point. You will see, in time."
22 posted on January 1, 2016 at 6:21:37 AM CST by odds
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I'll wait for you to say the same when Obama is out of office.
After that you may just wanna make up for the loss by chasing and violating goats. Enjoy meantime.
6 posted on January 1, 2016 at 4:05:51 AM CST by odds
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To: odds
You are a disgusting troll. I suggest you disappear fast.
41 posted on January 1, 2016 at 7:28:16 AM CST by lormand
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To: odds
Is English your first language and how long have you been speaking it?
51 posted on January 1, 2016 at 10:24:02 AM CST by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre
You won't see me leaving comments on FR anymore.
74 posted on January 16, 2016 at 1:15:21 AM CST by odds
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To: ETL
"First, if you want to........you Coward!"
"Second, what has......... mullahs in Iran, in over 30 years?"
"Third, Don't EVER post to me again."
79 posted on January 16, 2016 at 6:15:19 AM CST by odds
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Now again odds, remain seated, as I'll be back shortly to put you in your place with your #51.
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odds mumbles:
"Valerie June Bowman (aka Valerie Jarrett) may be sympathetic to Muslims or Islam, but no more so than many other born and raised American citizens, with true blue American heritage...."
Oh sure, right. You're deceptive and crazy! You're either naive or just flat out stupid (or are you some kinda' conniving sneaky muslim trying to cover for Jarrett)
But when you quote someone (no matter how vile they may be) the onus is on you to provide objective and actual proof; not tell others to go and do research and find out for themselves - it makes you look evasive, or an outright liar.
Now firstly ignoramus odds, we have to deal with the fact that you have low capacity and you are limited in what your capibilites are. When I went through the hassle of finding this exact quotation by Valerie Bowman in 1977, I did indeed search the online Stanford University archives. But I did more then just search the online Stanford archieves and I'll get to that momentarily.
Odds, when you searched the archives at Stanford, you only searched online. You did Not think -to search- the various organizations that Bowman belonged to or gave speeches to! Did you now! No, you did not! Complete short-sightedness on your part! You did not think about the possibility that Bowman gave her speech -not in some auditorium to Stanford students - but in the confines of a meeting room you ignoramus mole! Because I see you've exhausted yourself in successfully searching for the Bowman quotation I'll present you now with -the Bottom Line!
Odds, let me inform you - I have a friend whom I've known since 1990 and he moved to Daly City, Calfornia in 2001. When I couldn't find Bowman's quote online at Stanford, I called and then emailed my friend ( C. H.) in Daly City, Calfornia!
I wrote and asked him the following (and I'll paraphrase)
"Craig, if you have some extra time, would you do me a big favor and drive to the Stanford campus and go to the Green Library and downstairs, on the lower level floor, you can use their micro-fish/micro-film resources and try to find a name for me (Valerie June Bowman) and if you find this name, look and see if there are any speeches she gave to organizations, sororities or clubs -on or off campus- and see if any of these speeches contain the following quote...." (and I typed in her quote from her 1977 speech)
And he did find Bowman's name via micro-fish - and DID indeed, locate and read the speech she gave with the quotation in question here!
Ignoramus Odds, here is the name of the sorority that she gave her speech to: Delta Sigma Theta!!
[of course, all of my above can be marked down as hearsay, but it won't be hearsay for those of you who go to Green Library!!]
[...all the denials of this quote by Jarrett/Bowman by the lying crap site snopes is exactly that - snopes crap]
So low capacity Odds, fly your @@@ out to Stanford and go to Green Library and See For Yourself!
[also, it's 9:15 PM Frday evening now and I just called my friend C.H. in Daly City to ask if he'd mind if I post his acutual name here but their answering machine came on, so, I'll have to wait until I speak with him)
[anyone I've pinged who'd like to be off my ping list, please FRmail me]
I don’t know what all that was about, but Valerie Jarrett, like Obama and damn near everyone around him, is a communist. Very few of these people have a genuine religious bone in their body. They may USE religion at one time or another to advance their hard left agenda, but they themselves don’t actually believe in it. The only reason the hard left is sympathetic to radical islam is that they both hate America and want to destroy it.
Now bring some ID with you (preferably a valid drivers license) and go to a large university library and ask if they will call Green library at Stanford to see if they'll give access to their micro-fish resources via the university you're at. I'm not sure how they did all this, but they said I'd have to come back the next day and I'd be able to view the Stanford microfish records via the microfish online 'machine' at the Univ library I was at.
This all sounds very confusing, but actually, a microfish 'machine' is able to view the records of any other Univ. microfish 'machine' and you can see/ view the records - in a 'specially adapted' online 'machine' set up beside the microfish in the local Univ that you're at.
Since don't know and can't remember the technical names of the devices involved with all this, it's hard for me to describe how it all worked. But, if and when you go to a University library, it's common place to do any of this. Apparently, with todays technology - one Univ. computer can 'talk' with another University's computer and deliver records and microfish records/documents back and forth. The librarian that helped me at 'our end' - said the is a limit of only so many months of records at a time to - be exchanged between a set of 'machines' at one time.
Anyway, all of this depends if you have a university near you because you have to actually be there -in person. None of this can be done over a phone. Also, they charged me nothing for all their time. So, bottom line, the good thing is that even though all this sounds complicated, you can...view all these records - via the online 'machine' set up at either end and even though the original source is a microfish in another city. It did help that I had a friend who went to Green library, in person, to narrow all this down and allowed me to know that Jarrett gave her speech - - -to that soroiety. It allowed me to view her speech, online, as if I was actually in Green library.
Lastly, here is the phone number for the help desk at Green library, Stanford University if anyone wants to go through these easy procedures: (650)-723-1493
(it's late now and I'm not going to proof any of this for grammer and continuity)
Sorry to ask you to come look at a thread that you’re not up to date on, but the reason I pinged you is because I knew that odds had given you a hassle in another thread (post #79 in the list above) - Thank you ETL for taking a look.
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