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Donald Trump on Obamacare: "I Like The Mandate"
Youtube ^ | 2/18/2016 | Trump

Posted on 02/18/2016 9:54:35 PM PST by kik5150

From tonight's town hall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIozz7lgUz0

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; becauseheisaliberal; cruzbotnightshift; gangof14; justlikeobama; obamacare; propagandadujour; tds; tdscoffeclutch; tedspacificpartners; trump; usualsuspect; whatliberalssay; willthemudstick
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To: kik5150

Thanks for posting. He spent time trashing Obamacare and Obama. He said Obamacare will be repealed, that he will increase competition and lower costs, and that it’s not single payer.

He also said people shouldn’t be left to die if they can’t afford care. He’ll gain more votes than lose with that position.


21 posted on 02/18/2016 10:17:25 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: kik5150

Ah, Trump is responding to “pre-conditions” and uses the word mandate.

This 13 second clip is not honest when it throws out the word “mandate”, implying the mandate/tax, as you did.

Very dishonest.


22 posted on 02/18/2016 10:17:53 PM PST by map
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To: moehoward
Because it makes way to much sense if you see it in context like everybody did that watched it.

Go to the link on post #10, watch the whole 2 1/2 minute rambling response and tell me about the context.
23 posted on 02/18/2016 10:18:27 PM PST by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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To: kik5150

trumpbots embrace the individual mandate in order to continue their genuflection before The Donald in 3 . . 2 . . 1 . .


24 posted on 02/18/2016 10:20:47 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: map
Mandate= tax.

Now you are trying to redefine words. Trump likes the Mandate/tax that forces everyone to buy insurance.
25 posted on 02/18/2016 10:20:47 PM PST by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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To: kik5150

See post #22.

Post #10 puts the 13 second clip in context and debunks it.


26 posted on 02/18/2016 10:21:15 PM PST by map
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To: kik5150

F-the mandate and if this isn’t out of context :F-Trump! I’ll never support him and actively work against him if this is true!


27 posted on 02/18/2016 10:22:48 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: kik5150

That was really bizarre.


28 posted on 02/18/2016 10:23:46 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: kik5150

I watches it on CNN.


29 posted on 02/18/2016 10:24:56 PM PST by moehoward
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To: kik5150

most liberals even avoided the “dying in the streets” bullsh*t. they had to be a howard dean or barbara lee level whackjob before they tried that crap.

he must have seen that “on the shows”


30 posted on 02/18/2016 10:25:23 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: kik5150
"This is the same mandate that John Roberts called a tax. You know, the same John Roberts put in place by the evil Ted Cruz." - kik5150

Accusing Cruz of supporting Obamacare via his recommendation of Roberts to the USSC is dishonest. It's a half-truth, a misrepresentation of history at best. Why would you say this?

The facts: John Roberts had a conservative track record, and had argued 39 cases before the USSC. He had excellent conservative credentials. He clerked for USSC Chief Justice William Rehnquist. He was appointed by Ronald Reagan as a special Assistant to the AG. He was appointed to the Federal Court of Appeals by GHW Bush. The Senate held at 55 GOP 45 Democrats, but Democrats had the filibuster available to block any G.W. Bush nominee.

Roberts was the best, most conservative Jurist that Bush could get past the Senate. NOBODY IN THE GOP-c or GOP-e DISAGREED WITH THAT ASSESSMENT IN 2005. So, why the new standard now, for Cruz?

So, Roberts fooled us all, when he all activist on Obamacare. He's considered a reliable conservative otherwise. He infuriated the four conservative dissenters, and just about everyone else in the GOP.

Of course, you DO know this history, correct? Marco Rubio knows this history, too. So, why are you and he trying to hold Cruz responsible for Robert's Obamacare decision? Reagan nominated Sarah Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy, widely considered court "moderates", and with a far greater history of progressive jurisprudence than Roberts. Does that mean Reagan should never have been elected President? And if you're recall, Bush, not Cruz made the nomination.

If conservatives beat other conservatives in the primary by distorting and/or rewriting history, plus a generous allotment of foul mouth, grade school, guttersnipe insults, who benefits?

Do you really think conservatives will support the eventual nominee if they perceive him to be an illegitimate candidate due to his conduct (or his supporters, representing him) during the campaign?

As conservatives, "relative moral values" people, we ain't. Alinsky doesn't define our tactics. You're better than this. Marco is better than this. Cut this stuff out.

FReegards.

31 posted on 02/18/2016 10:26:01 PM PST by OldSaltUSN
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To: kik5150

Trump is going to sue himself.


32 posted on 02/18/2016 10:28:33 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Trump did not say “individual mandate”. He responded to a question about pre-conditions, and used the word mandate in regard to pre-conditions.

Stooping to a 13 second clip, where Trump speaks for literally 2 seconds is very dishonest.

What Trump plainly meant, in context, was- I like a mandate for pre-conditions.

You imagined he said individual mandate.


33 posted on 02/18/2016 10:31:24 PM PST by map
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To: kik5150
Looking at the youtube, maybe you're target was Trump. I took you for a Rubio supporter. Rubio has been the main candidate accusing Cruz of being responsible for Obamacare, because he supported Roberts for the USSC. This falsehood really ticks me off, per my post above.

Maybe Trump's brought this up, too, but I haven't seen any other candidate use this line of argument.

Trump vis-a-vis Healthcare, he's all but said "single payer" in his body of speeches. If you think THE DONALD is going to dismantle Obamacare and leave a private insurance solution, then show me anywhere in his history prior to 2015 where he HASN'T supported Obamacare or a single payer plan.

At best, Trump may try to "make the system work better" by beating on private companies, which will stifle innovation and restrict investment. He says he'll cut regulation (i.e. remove state to state limits), which is good, but he's thinner on those details than he is on his prior support of Romneycare, Obamacare, and single payer.

If he's actually "for" the mandate, and didn't misspeak, then, nuff said.

34 posted on 02/18/2016 10:33:31 PM PST by OldSaltUSN
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To: map
"Mandate" does not refer to forcing insurance companies to insure people with pre-existing conditions.

"Mandate" refers to forcing everyone to buy insurance to subsidize others, such as with pre-existing conditions and low income.
35 posted on 02/18/2016 10:33:33 PM PST by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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To: map

an individual mandate for preexisting conditions is nonsensical word salad. someone jumbling their buzzwords.

it literally makes no sense.


36 posted on 02/18/2016 10:34:04 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JoSixChip

?????????


37 posted on 02/18/2016 10:34:21 PM PST by theoilpainter
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To: map; JohnBrowdie; kik5150

Why can’t you just admit that your god has feet of clay.

Cooper was talking about the “mandate that everyone have insurance” to which Trump clearly said “I like the mandate.”

Deal with it. Trump is a universal health care big government liberal.

If you want a guy who “likes the mandate” then vote for him, but quit trying to twist his words to make them fit you idea of who he is. He isn’t who you think he is.


38 posted on 02/18/2016 10:39:02 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: map
Trump did not say “individual mandate”

The question was:
"Without a mandate for all people to be insured, why would companies take people with pre-existing conditions?"

Trumps answer: "I like the mandate"
39 posted on 02/18/2016 10:39:56 PM PST by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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To: kik5150

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIDi2wlgZN4

“Not very republican, but unbelievable, everybody likes it..”

Rambling, incoherent, all over taking every side.. Big nothingburger.


40 posted on 02/18/2016 10:40:30 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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