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How we can build Trump's border wall
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Posted on 02/18/2016 1:21:11 PM PST by TigerClaws

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To: Busko
You'd have to get such a tax through Congress first, which I think would be very unlikely.

Then some enterprising folks would simply set up funds to be transferred some country other than Mexico, to be then forwarded to Mexico.

Or they might simply use cash or money orders and send it through the mail.

21 posted on 02/18/2016 1:41:15 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: napscoordinator

With illegal immigrant labor?


22 posted on 02/18/2016 1:41:55 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: LostPassword
I'd guess some of that will go toward paying workers. We have quite a few people looking for work. Dems are always crying out for "jobs programs" and should be fine with $11 billion for jobs.

This being a construction job there would be a nearly limitless supply of illegal aliens readily available.

23 posted on 02/18/2016 1:43:24 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

There was a 4.75% increase in money sent from abroad to Mexico, most of which comes from the U.S., to total $24.8 billion US dollars last year, up from $23.6 billion in 2014, said the Bank of México.

Wow, they got a 4.75% increase, but Social Security gets another year of 0% no increase. Unbelievable isn’t it.


24 posted on 02/18/2016 1:48:18 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: napscoordinator

“I EASILY can see the bulldozers and other heavy equipment with contractors at the boarder immediately after swearing in and the first dirt moving the second after swearing in.”

You betcha! And I see immediately troops, maybe National Guard, backing up the Border Patrol.


25 posted on 02/18/2016 1:48:41 PM PST by ryderann
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To: PJBankard

“The only discrepancy is that they assume the whole border length... There are about 800 miles of border that are already impassable by natural barriers.”

And there are hundreds of miles of existing man-made barriers of various types.

If you prioritize the high traffic corridors first, you can throttle the flow of migrants big time with the first few hundred miles (around the cities and major roads).

After a few years of careful monitoring and policing, patching one access route after another, it would not be feasible to have mass movements. As it became harder, less would try.

If law enforcement was toughened up, and economic incentives were reduced, they would have equal or greater impacts on the numbers.


26 posted on 02/18/2016 1:49:41 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: napscoordinator
The wall isn't the key. The key lies in stopping illegal labor. It would take many years to build a wall, in the meantime we need to crush illegal labor.

We also need to reframe this whole argument on illegal immigration. When somebody challenges us on illegal immigration the immediate response should be to ask what type of pro-illegal they are. They either want to exploit the illegals for cheap labor or for a scheme to generate a new group of voters. Ask them how they justify encouraging illegals to risk their very lives to come to the United States. I wish we could take these people out to the desert southwest to help pick up the bodies of those that didn't make it. Supporting illegal immigration is supporting the exploitation of human capital, and that is evil.

27 posted on 02/18/2016 1:51:34 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: TigerClaws

In a sense the wall is a metaphor, like the “wall of separation” between church and state. The wall symbolizes our decision to secure our border, however it is done. It means that we have rejected the plans of those in high places, on both sides of the aisle, to create a North American Union where anyone comes-and-goes as they please.
(To the contrary, they have talked about limiting Americans 9th amendment right to travel freely between the states with national ID cards and such. Maybe this is because parts of our southwest are unsafe to travel? No. It’s because they value more cheap labor & open borders than they do us, their paymasters.)
It could be like the walls we have in place now in `high traffic’ areas in Arizona, CA and Texas. In other areas, where building it might be like blasting a tunnel through rock for a train, there are other effective means of blocking ingress by lawbreakers.
If CA refuses to cooperate, loss of federal funds.

The important thing is reversing current federal policy, which can be summarized as: the feds sue the states when the states attempt to protect their citizens from the ongoing invasion, and resolving to dedicate ourselves insteadto protecting our fellow citizens (in all 57 states) since our employees in Capitol City have neglected their prime function for 25 years and abused those of us who demand ythat they do their jobs.

Summarized: We want Washington DC to build a Wall like we mean it, not like lip service for the yahoos back home.
Go Trump


28 posted on 02/18/2016 1:51:48 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: deport
especially property ROW in that short timeframe where there is no border fence currently in place.

I wonder if state and/or federal easements exist there nonetheless? If the border has easements on it now, the the right-of-way to access it should be a standard part of it.

-PJ

29 posted on 02/18/2016 1:57:34 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ryderann

The Greenies will go nutz! They’ll be filing suits wherever they can.


30 posted on 02/18/2016 2:03:17 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: TigerClaws

Screw the wall, we need another Canal since carter the traitor gave it away.


31 posted on 02/18/2016 2:05:12 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Zenjitsuman
Mexico will pay for it. One thing he has not mentioned is we give Mexico 14 billion in foreign aid per year. So we just don’t give them the money and the wall is paid for.

Then there is also the 58 billion trade deficit with Mexico.

So we buy more Mexican made products than we sell to them, plus the 14 billion in give away aid.

My math says that is 72 billion that we can recover to build the wall.

There is no reason to be giving away 14 billion to a country that is rich in oil, rich in natural resources, rich in agricultural production, etc.

32 posted on 02/18/2016 2:11:54 PM PST by Parmy
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To: TigerClaws
The wall may cost 11 billion, (which I seriously doubt) how much will the land we need to buy cost to actually build it...?

Trump is estimating the cost of HIM building the wall, we all know a government built wall will cost two to ten times more...

Can anyone name a single government managed building project that EVER ran at budget?

33 posted on 02/18/2016 2:12:45 PM PST by Popman
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To: Political Junkie Too

There already exists a 60’ wide easement along the southern border the Feds own—it was put there by Teddy Roosevelt in 1907.

Temporary construction easements would be needed to access this easement to build the wall. In some areas, there already exists wildlife refuges or wilderness areas, so there are groups who are all upset by someone threatening to build a wall. Of course millions of illegals and drug “mules” have already worn trails through there and drop an unholy amount of trash and human waste along the way—they never seem to complain about that.

So there is already land set aside along the border to build a fence and have a road to patrol it with.


34 posted on 02/18/2016 2:14:03 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: TigerClaws

Money, labor and fence materials.


35 posted on 02/18/2016 2:16:53 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: TigerClaws; All

There’s an annoying as but watch the video.

Shows how to build the wall and how Mexico can pay for it. B


36 posted on 02/18/2016 2:22:55 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Political Junkie Too
I can't cite details of the actual boundary, etc. However the border in Texas runs about
1255 miles along the Rio Grande. Generally the US/Mexico line is the middle of the river.
However there are two major reservoirs/lakes, Amistad and Falcon. Also where there are
gorges or canyons then fencing is less of a need at this time. In the towns/cities along
the Rio they buildings are built basically up to the river.

All that said it will take planning, commendation proceedings and who knows what else
to ‘get this done. It's doable but not overnight is my opinion.

37 posted on 02/18/2016 2:30:25 PM PST by deport
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To: TigerClaws

In all actuallity we don’t really need much of a while. If we enforced our frickin’ immigration laws, outlaw ANY AND ALL welfare payments to illegal aliens and immigrants, and severly punished anyone who hires illegal aliens the problem would start sorting itself out. Wall up the popular border crossing sites where we have to and patrol where it is impractical to build a wall. Cut off the gibs and the stop coming.


38 posted on 02/18/2016 2:37:22 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: 21twelve

Please remember that to Trump, taking private property through eminent domain is a beautiful thing.


39 posted on 02/18/2016 2:38:48 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Political Junkie Too

“I wonder if state and/or federal easements exist there nonetheless?”
That’s a darned good question.

https://www.aclu.org/constitution-100-mile-border-zone

As we have come to learn, Trump isn’t shy about 5th amendment taking and the (drumroll plz) ACLU agrees that we can pretty much do anything lawful that we, the American people, want to do in the furtherance of public safety within 100 miles of our borders and coasts.


40 posted on 02/18/2016 2:38:54 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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