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Hey Republicans, This Is How You Beat Trump—For Real [the Daily Beast wants to save the GOP]
Daily Beast ^ | 17 Feb 16 | Stuart Stevens

Posted on 02/17/2016 11:23:49 AM PST by elhombrelibre

A few months ago I wrote that Donald Trump was probably going to withdraw before the Iowa caucuses rather than face the embarrassment of defeat. Wrong. He did lose Iowa, seemed momentarily humbled, but then quickly reverted to form by asserting that he really won. He went on to a landslide victory in New Hampshire and now leads in South Carolina.

While much of the political world speculates that Trump may be creating a new kind of candidacy largely immune to normal attacks, let me make another assertion (that may prove as wrong as the previous): Donald Trump should be easy to defeat. What makes him not a “normal” candidate actually makes him more vulnerable rather than stronger. Let me explain.

In a Republican primary, Trump lacks both an ideological or geographic base. For all the focus on his bigoted remarks about Mexicans and Muslims, Trump has won self-identified moderate voters in both Iowa and New Hampshire. In Iowa, he lost conservatives and very conservatives but won them in NH (in a landslide victory like he had in NH, it’s hard to win everything.) In a party that is increasingly dominated by the South and Sunbelt, Trump lives on Fifth Avenue.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: trump2016
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To: nickcarraway

“Even Obama was more vetted than Trump. Jeremiah Wright and all that stuff came out. “

Now I know you’ve completely lost it. There are DECADES of interviews, photos, documentaries and shots of Trump as he has lived his life. What records has Trump ordered sealed?

You want to pretend the same info is available on Obama? Where is it?


101 posted on 02/17/2016 12:09:58 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Goldsborough

“Trump supporters deserve every brickbat tossed at them.”

Just as long as you blame yourself for splitting the vote, and not Trump. You want to be a bitch, that’s on you.


102 posted on 02/17/2016 12:10:51 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Goldsborough

Tell us again how superior you are to Phyllis Schlafly when it comes to conservative bona fides.


103 posted on 02/17/2016 12:11:28 PM PST by austinaero
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To: dragnet2
Mussolini didn't mass murder anyone, hence the comparison. He was a businessman who ran newspapers, and who rose to power on the strength of a groundswell of voting idiots, who then ruined his country by demonstrating just how full of shit he was.

Trump and his SprayTan Shirts are very much in the fascist mold.
104 posted on 02/17/2016 12:12:02 PM PST by Goldsborough (Damn the torpedoes! FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!)
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To: dinoparty

“In addition, I would suggest pointing at him and insulting him brazenly (like he does to the others) in the next debate, making him look smaller. Then look at the audience and ask them point blank whether they want their kids to emulate a womanizing, arrogant, amoral, rude divorcee twice-over, because like it or not the President acts as a role model inevitably.”

Go for it. You think that’s going to win votes for another candidate?


105 posted on 02/17/2016 12:12:22 PM PST by austinaero
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To: nickcarraway

Trumps being vetted as we speak.


106 posted on 02/17/2016 12:12:39 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Wow the Leftist political establishment, locked in their ignorant ideological baised bubble world views of average Americans, is offer advice to the “Conservative” Establishments on how to win votes?

HAVE You taken a look at their electoral victory record? Other then Obama this clown posse has manage to take the once dominate Democrat party to a nearly dead pale shadow of it former self.

And supposed “Conservatives are taking it seriously?

You idiots! THIS is exactly why you are losing! Your candidates are clinging to to failed Establishment political playbook of selective quotation, exaggeration and lying by omission. You guys do not get it.

The political playbook itself is part of the problem. You are using the same old political tactics in a year when people are completely fed up with “politics as usual”.

Your candidates are acting like standard issue politicians running standard issue “politics as usual” campaigns and you wonder wondering why they are losing ground!

The voters have heard all the same thing from the GOP candidates for 3 decades. All the high flying retroic on ideological purity are meaningless to a voter who been underemployed since 2008,is worried if his current employer is going to move his job to Mexico tomorrow and whose kids go to a corrupt, incompetent, gang infested school.

People want solutions, not “how many Conservatives can dance on the head of a pin”, ideological debates.


107 posted on 02/17/2016 12:13:24 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: austinaero
We've had pro-Trump posters posting from THE NATION. I guess that's okay. After all, it's in favor of Trump. And THE NATION, which was basically a communist pro-Stalin paper, didn't offend the pro-Trump folks. I guess what is good for Trump is what's good. What's not good for him is what's not good. Truth is subjective and it's okay to be hypocritical if it helps Trump. After all, when did conservatives ever believe that words matter, character matters, or that the truth is true regardless of the source.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3388495/posts

108 posted on 02/17/2016 12:13:34 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: Souled_Out; Yashcheritsiy

I think you mighta missed the /sarcasm in that comment


109 posted on 02/17/2016 12:13:41 PM PST by digger48
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To: Bryanw92

No, they aren’t rare. Trump loses to both Clinton and Sanders.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html


110 posted on 02/17/2016 12:13:47 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: austinaero

I’ll blame whomever I want. I am an anti-fascist first and a Reublican second.


111 posted on 02/17/2016 12:14:16 PM PST by Goldsborough (Damn the torpedoes! FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!)
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To: digger48; Souled_Out

Ah, but the fun is in seeing how many Cruz supporters actually go along with it and admit that they agree with the sentiment.

The number of those who have done so so far is not small.


112 posted on 02/17/2016 12:15:50 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: HamiltonJay

+10. Well said.


113 posted on 02/17/2016 12:17:11 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: austinaero

I’m not a senile old bat lifting my skirt for some relevancy?


114 posted on 02/17/2016 12:17:58 PM PST by Goldsborough (Damn the torpedoes! FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!)
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To: Goldsborough

Stooping to that level, disrespecting, disparaging and maliciously slandering Trump and tens of millions of good Americans who happen to support him, is over the top pal. It’s not up to me, but if it were I’d throw your ass out of here. If not, you’ll make an easy target if you remain.

I just can’t believe someone would stoop to that level of BS. You depict total political desperation.


115 posted on 02/17/2016 12:18:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Goldsborough
Utterly ignorant nonsense. Completely divorced from even a nodding acquaintance with fact.

That argument is based on a complete ignorance of the history of Italian Fascism, the US Political system and Trump's campaign.

It is worst sort of infantile snark posted around the web by ignorant emotion driven intellectual light weights trying desperately to pretend they are “deep thinkers”.

116 posted on 02/17/2016 12:18:36 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Goldsborough
Trump is a life long lefty.

I think all Cruz-supporting posters should announce and declare this. Over and over. Sometimes in long posts with multiple fonts.

Put it in breaking news.

It's a message that is obviously convincing millions.

117 posted on 02/17/2016 12:18:45 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: elhombrelibre

You’re spinning off into your own orbit there. Probably best for everyone.


118 posted on 02/17/2016 12:19:24 PM PST by austinaero
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To: elhombrelibre
There is no real reason for moderates to support the candidate who labels Mexicans “rapists” and wants to impose a religious test on those boarding airplanes in Toronto to fly to Chicago.

The author doesn't understand how some people come to view themselves as "moderates" or "independents". For them, the key word isn't Mexican, but rapists, and they are very much NOT on board for rapists (as opposed to liberals who want to give them a fair hearing).
119 posted on 02/17/2016 12:20:10 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: austinaero

Thanks,


120 posted on 02/17/2016 12:20:21 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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