Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Donald Trump has invented a new way to win
New York Post ^ | 2/15/16 | Mark Cunningham

Posted on 02/16/2016 7:17:18 AM PST by AT7Saluki

The other GOP candidates are finally starting to fight on Donald Trump’s terms, to judge by the slugfest that was Saturday night’s debate. But it speaks volumes — whole encyclopedias — about the ignorance of our political and media elites that they’re only now realizing that much of what Trump’s been doing is just busting balls.

It’s a blue-collar ritual, with clear rules — overtly insulting, sure, but with infinite subtleties. It can be a test of manliness, a sign of respect, a way of bonding and much more.

Rule No. 1: You can wince, but don’t squeal.

Rule No. 2: Bust right back, if you can.

Not knowing how to play is no excuse. And not getting it shows you have no idea how a huge swath of America lives — the Americans whom Trump has made his base.

From the start, Trump targeted the (mostly) white working class, which happens to be 40 percent of the country. And he’s done it not just with issues, but with how he talks — the ball-busting, the “bragging,” the over-the-top promises.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; ballbusting; bluecollar; propagandadujour; tdscoffeeclutch; tedspacificpartners; trump; willthemudstick
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-127 next last
To: AndyJackson
These are guys who scored in the 99th percentile on their ASVABs. I was convinced that the real challenge was that a lot of them were juvenile delinquents, but were too smart to get caught, and I had to put up with it for months at a time underwater. The antics were classic.

In the old days, some very wise judges and chiefs of police caught some of those jds and had them join the Navy/military.

One the best ship COs I ever met had the choice join the navy or go to jail. He joined the Navy, and he blasted the ASVABs. He was a mariner during the Korean crisis, made chief and became a white hat mustang, Officer. .

101 posted on 02/16/2016 9:55:17 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: HamiltonJay

Bing!


102 posted on 02/16/2016 10:34:24 AM PST by AFreeBird
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: HamiltonJay

People seem to think the Presidential election is a “Winner Take All” contest. It isn’t. Although, even when the opposing party controls Congress, the President certainly treats his office as that of a monarchy, as he uses executive action to impose his will.

I don’t see how Trump is any different; except that he’s (presumably) our monarch. That may be a good thing, but I see it as a negative.

We should not expect our President to be a king, and if Trump has an X factor, his style of bombast and narcissism isn’t it, but a symptom of what is wrong with America right now.

I don’t know of any politician on the Republican side who wants America to be a “Citizen of the World” as is the mindset of the Left. But, most of our candidates know (and acknowledge) that ours isn’t the only viewpoint.


103 posted on 02/16/2016 10:49:43 AM PST by RangerM
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: RangerM

The X factor is not bombast... Trump doesn’t take control of a room because he’s bombastic. The X factor isn’t bravado, its presence. Trump enters a room and you can’t ignore him... he doesn’t have to say a word... that’s X Factor... whether or not they are loud, in your face or bombastic has nothing to do with having the X factor.

Trump has a presence about him, and always has, it has nothing to do with him being loud, confrontational or anything else... It has to do with the fact he can’t be ignored.. Trump can stand up at a podium during a debate and hardly say a word, and everyone still knows he’s there... that’s what X Factor is. X-factor means you can’t ignore them, not that they are loud, obnoxious, quiet, or anything else.. Trump has this, Christie has this, Cruz, Bush, Rubio, Carson, Carly, don’t... Hillary and Bernie don’t.

I’m not sure who is arguing for kings, never see anyone claim that. The President is not a Monarch, and the only reason Obama has been getting away with that behavior is frankly the republican party in congress hasn’t had teh stones to do its constitutional duty. Just as the democrats were before.

You keep trying to argue conservatism v liberalism, and that’s where and why Cruz is losing, if it were simply whos the most conservative, Bush would have never been president, Bush II would have never been president, McCain would have never been the nominee, Dole would have never been the nominee, Ford would have never been president, Romney would have never been the nominee.... etc etc etc... IF it were simply who’s the most liberal, Clinton would have never been president, Gore would have never been the Nominee, Mondale, Carter, etc etc etc.... This is the truth in politics, RARELY if ever is the most ideologically pure the nominee, and even rarer do the win the general election and NEVER do they do it by arguing they are the most ideologically pure.

Republicans have sold out this country, Democrats have sold out this country... they have both been doing it for decades while selling the electorate bread and circuses of liberal and conservative... that’s a fine argument to have when you have parties that the electorate believe have the nations best interest at heart even if they have differing views on what that means... but it is clear that this election cycle the population has had enough... they don’t believe the parties care about America first... and as such, arguing who is more or less conservative means jack crap.

Look at the Democratic side.. Bernie is beating Hillary, why? Same reason. Yes, she’s unlikable and a liar, but for as screwed up as Bernie is, and his political ideology is a failure, what he is railing against aren’t really bad things.. he’s pointing out in many cases very real things that need to be addressed... his solution to them is all wrong, but they aren’t all invented problems.

If you can’t see this election is the people telling the parties to go ef themselves, because they have gotten wise to how they are both selling them out daily, then you really need to step back a bit and look around.

We are on a path where Bernie is very possibly the Democratic nominee... or at the very least still with a possibility to win the public vote for the nomination for the Democrats... and Trump is on a very real path that could see him win the Republican nomination. If you can’t see that this is a total repudiation of both parties by the electorate, you need to visit an optometrist.


104 posted on 02/16/2016 11:08:35 AM PST by HamiltonJay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: AT7Saluki

105 posted on 02/16/2016 11:51:54 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AndyJackson
"Well that didn't take me long. Reminds of a Zen Koan:"

I enjoy reading pomposity like this. Are you a member of Mensa? You act like one if you are not.

How about some facts instead of drivel and psychobabble. Facts like these....


106 posted on 02/16/2016 12:43:56 PM PST by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: AT7Saluki
Trump was not a politican. He was a New York Business man. Had Trump come out with the positions today as a Business man. Then he would have been finished in a Liberal City like New York. For the record, I will not vote for Rubio, Jeb, Mitt, or Kasich under any circumstances. Cruz will never make it because he will be disqualified by a federal shopped judge. They you will most likely get Rubio, Jeb, Mitt or Kasich.

Don't believe me.  Here are the links.

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266039-attorney-files-birther-lawsuit-against-cruz

and

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269281-trump-supporters-file-federal-lawsuit-challenging-cruzs

and

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/ted-cruz-citizenship-lawsuit/424425/

and

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269281-trump-supporters-file-federal-lawsuit-challenging-cruzs

and

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Campaigns-Quietly-Prep-Possible/2016/02/16/id/714492/

and from Fox News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkUNf1wPYEI

and

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/12/22/a_brokered_convention_in_2016_why_it_might_happen_what_it_might_mean_129119.html

and

http://www.wsj.com/articles/flirting-with-a-chaotic-gop-convention-1451345621

and

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/brokered-republican-convention-cleveland-219306

and

http://www.12newsnow.com/story/31194724/rubio-eyes-brokered-convention-after-nh-setback

 

 

107 posted on 02/16/2016 12:48:06 PM PST by Enlightened1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lormand

Your story is touching, but it sounds like a lie.


108 posted on 02/16/2016 12:51:51 PM PST by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: HamiltonJay
The Iraq war was a disaster, it left our military in a shambles and the middle east a wreck

And went from an arguably balanced budget - ok there were some Clinton tricks there - to one that was massively out of wack to pay for the actual cost of the war, and also to pay all the goodies to buy the support of otherwise reluctant Senators and Representatives. AND, to pay for the grossest of all insults to the taxpayers - the DHS.

109 posted on 02/16/2016 1:00:22 PM PST by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: AndyJackson

The truth will set you free if you only open your eyes. Facts are stubborn things.


110 posted on 02/16/2016 1:01:54 PM PST by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | View Replies]

To: lormand
Let us look at a couple of your so-called facts:

1. "He invited Bill and Hillary Clinton to his wedding." So what? Hillary was a NY senator and he does big property deals in NYC.

2. "He supports a progressive income tax. He does not favor a flat tax." - Cruz supports a flat tax, but through silent misrepresentation fails to state that this would be supplemented by a VAT. Nothing is more recessive than a VAT. Woman retired on $900 / mo SS can surely afford 20% federal excise tax on her groceries, etc. Of course the truly wealthy escape VAT and would sail clear on their 10% flat tax. 3.

"I hate the concept of abortion," he said. "I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. ... but I just believe in choice." - I don't have a problem with it.

111 posted on 02/16/2016 1:19:50 PM PST by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

To: AT7Saluki

We’ve had a lot of group politics: help Blacks, advance women, etc. etc. I consider all of this degrading to the nation.

After all the decades we have had pandering to everyone but white men, I’m not sure I can really blame a politician who goes for the white male voter.

Sure, it may mean that we are all getting into the gutter and America as one nation for all is now just a crock. That’s sad.

Liberals have promoted racial and sexual favoritism for several decades. If you’re a man and favor anal sex with other men, then you get liberal support. It’s not sodomy; it’s gender.

If a conservative were to have sex with a boy, the liberal press would shout “pedophile.” But every day passes with no denunciation of the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), an organization of pedophiles.

Liberals pander to all groups but straight white men. So Donald Trump responds and panders to straight white men. Who’s to complain?


112 posted on 02/16/2016 1:39:19 PM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress inei 2006.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lewislynn

Sure the are. You need to resume your lithium therapy.


113 posted on 02/16/2016 2:51:03 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: AT7Saluki
Seeing the headline I wondered --- did he come out with another new board-game?

From (fittingly enough?) The Daily Beast;


114 posted on 02/16/2016 3:04:40 PM PST by BlueDragon (TheHildbeast is so bad, purty near anybody should beat her. And that's saying something)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stockpirate
Those who don’t support Trump are those on the left of the republican party.

You are SO wrong that it makes me think you don't know your left from your right.

115 posted on 02/16/2016 3:06:03 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

I don’t know about that, but my life lessons have cost me big time over the years. My sense is that you have hung onto your money better than me.

One thing I have learned is how to detect kayfabe.


116 posted on 02/16/2016 3:11:39 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: AT7Saluki
I really don't think his promises are "over the top".

What makes Trump's claims even more believable is the deplorable shape that Trump is likely to inherit.


117 posted on 02/16/2016 3:26:05 PM PST by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: John Valentine

My sense is you like to condescend.


118 posted on 02/16/2016 3:56:20 PM PST by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 116 | View Replies]

To: HamiltonJay
You keep trying to argue conservatism v liberalism, and that's where and why Cruz is losing,...Republicans [and] Democrats have sold out this country... they have both been doing it for decades while selling the electorate bread and circuses of liberal and conservative...

That and Trump's X-factor and I think you have the whole thing in a nutshell.

Cruz's supporters keep arguing that he is the "true conservative" but that is like arguing that a chess position is superior because the rook is on the white square. But my rook is white or black or the queen is red or whatever. The label is not an issue of consequence.

There is no logical connection between the label and what needs doing. Somehow we have held the belief that conservatives would be honorable, reasonable, just, patriotic, frugal, concerned for the country and not so much the world, etc. , and these were fine qualities compared to whatever New Deal Liberalism was selling. So we bought the story that if we just got a true conservative all would be well. Well it turns out they are not those things, and the ideology is not producing the desired result.

Then Trump comes along and says - look I hear you - here are your big problems [immigration-jobs-trade, veterans and Obamacare, defense and Iran and Iraq and ISIS] and here is how we are going to solve them [wall, repeal and replace, tough, tough on defense - so tough], and the reason they exist is those incompetent hacks on both sides don't know how to do anything. And I am tough - oh so tough - so tough Putin and I will get along just fine. And I am fighting for you for a change - don't believe me - just watch what I have already done for some veterans [I am going to guess so VA administrators got some telephone calls from Trumps lawyers that weren't so pleasant].

What's Cruz's story? What's Jeb's story [mommeeeee!!!!]? We know Rubio's story - Cruz lied.

119 posted on 02/16/2016 4:38:03 PM PST by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: AT7Saluki

his real “new” way to win isn’t “new” at all. It just hasn’t been tried. That is to stop deferring to The Party, and be free.


120 posted on 02/16/2016 4:51:16 PM PST by TraditionalMerica
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-127 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson