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1 posted on 02/14/2016 6:25:46 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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2 posted on 02/14/2016 6:26:33 AM PST by Helicondelta
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Politico = Establishment = Globalist

I do recall Colin Powell in from the U.N. making the case we knew exactly where the WMDs were located.

Then years later W. said there were no WMDs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs

 

3 posted on 02/14/2016 6:28:22 AM PST by Enlightened1
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The way I see it, Bush W wouldn’t DEFEND HIMSELF, so why should Trump defend him.

In fact it was Bush W’s REFUSAL TO DEFEND HIMSELF that led directly to the Dems taking over Congress in 2006 and giving them the majority needed to pass Obamacare.

I have NO RESPECT for W or anyone from that family, and GOPe types that try to get to the right of Trump on this can kiss my beutress.


5 posted on 02/14/2016 6:30:47 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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Trump seemed to be campaigning for Democrats who don’t like HRC or the old communist. I guess the high mark of a debate is Rubio continuing to lie about Cruz’s intent in the immigration issue and anything else. Rubio has been called out about his actions, not words and I have less respect for him when he continues to lie about Cruz to deflect from his real record.

By the way, that audience sounded like a bunch of rednecks at a wrestling match. Someone should have told them to shut up. The moderator was a prick. ABC did the best debate by far if you remove Stephanopolous’ ‘Sport Center’ style commentating.


6 posted on 02/14/2016 6:31:13 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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I don’t see one lie that Trump said.

Trump 2016!


7 posted on 02/14/2016 6:31:25 AM PST by napscoordinator
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Tiger Beat magazine has better sentence structure and premises for writing subtantial articles than Politico’s bitchy daily snipefest.


11 posted on 02/14/2016 6:33:17 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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I’m surprised there are still idiots here in 2016 that think the Iraq War was a GOOD idea!

Even I admit I was wrong in supporting it.


12 posted on 02/14/2016 6:33:47 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Bull. There are lots of conservatives who feel it was a mistake. The mistake wasn’t the war. The mistake was the mess Bush II created afterwards. He should have created an independent Kurdistan and forbade the creation of a state based on Sharial


16 posted on 02/14/2016 6:36:32 AM PST by ZULU (If you support Stokes or Obama, you are too stupid to own a gun.)
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Here is the simple, painful truth. Trump is with over 60% of the American people in this view.

I was invited to the Oval Office in 2006, along with Victor Davis Hanson, Sir John Keegan, and two other historians to discuss the ongoing war. Bush listened a lot. We strongly recommended that he tie “Islam” to the War on Terror, and that without doing so the mission would lose focus. Victor Hanson actually suggested (and we agreed) that Bush begin using the term “Islamofascism,” since that was the best we could do. He wasn’t going to indict Islam. So I’m hardly a “Code Pink” guy.

But the fact is, 13 years after the invasion of Iraq, a large, large majority of Americans see it as a mistake; most Americans believe there were no WMDs there (regardless of the 500 tons of yellowcake removed or the Russian trucks heading for the border). Trump is with the large majority of Americans on this and by tying Jeb to W, no matter how much the GOPe/donor crowd booed, Trump will see his support rise, especially on the general election.


17 posted on 02/14/2016 6:36:40 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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Even National Security Director James Clapper said the WMDs were probably moved, etc. etc.


21 posted on 02/14/2016 6:37:38 AM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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If S. Carolina has a place in its heart for GWB, and Trump knows this, then Trump took a risk speaking his mind. For that I give him great credit for not playing politics.
Since Jeb! has admitted to the Iraq mistake, there is obvious duplicity (read: politics)in the Bush political machine.
I have no problem re-litigating this history. It needs to be fully aired. When the chips eventually fall, I believe that it will become apparent that the American people have determined that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake, regardless of WMDs and Obama’s subsequent troop withdrawal.


24 posted on 02/14/2016 6:39:43 AM PST by dontreadthis
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I see the Bush-bot Brigade is alive, well and still has the Stockholm syndrome. Here is their new guy.


26 posted on 02/14/2016 6:40:11 AM PST by Enlightened1
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For George W. and the GOPe, this is the price of the kinder, gentler, Clinton Loving strategy that came from Turd Blossom Rove.
I doubt in the cold light of history that they will live it down.


27 posted on 02/14/2016 6:40:39 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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Well, it’s not well received around here, but he is still a man of the left. Down to the marrow in his bones, he’s a New York liberal. He knew he couldn’t break through in the Democrat party and step right in as a presidential candidate, so he decided to act like a conservative for his bid at the presidency. His only core beliefs are that anyone disagreeing with him is a liar and jealous of him. This allows him to be mercurial and ephemeral and fits his dilettante approach to politics. Every once in a while, the inner liberal schweinhund gets out and we see the real Trump, a mean-spirited, know-nothing liberal parroting conservative ideas he neither understands nor feels any true loyalty towards.


39 posted on 02/14/2016 6:49:12 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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My List of WMDs "found in Iraq" links

Do Reports of WMD Found in Iraq Vindicate George W. Bush? WMD were found in Iraq but does it matter?

41 posted on 02/14/2016 6:51:55 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Bush’s fault!


59 posted on 02/14/2016 7:08:26 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Terrorism, the thing that shall not be named by the MSM)
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Powell Blames Himself, Others For Specious Iraq WMD Claims to U.N.

Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell in a new book said he blames himself for not trusting his instinct and making what proved to be false assertions to the United Nations about Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction, Bloomberg reported earlier this month (see GSN, Feb. 17, 2011).

Powell's high-profile February 2003 prewar presentation to the U.N. Security Council included now-discredited claims that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein had movable biological weapons facilities and was involved in a "sinister nexus" with al-Qaeda.

No evidence of active WMD production facilities or usable stockpiles have been found in Iraq following the U.S.-led March 2003 invasion.

"A failure will always be attached to me and my U.N. presentation," Powell writes in "It Worked For Me," a book that provides leadership advice. "I am mad mostly at myself for not having smelled the problem. My instincts failed me."

In his recently published book, Powell asserts "there would have been no war" in Iraq had then-President George W. Bush and his councilors understood that Hussein did not possess any functioning unconventional weapons. However, he lauded the fact that under Bush "we got rid of the horrific Hussein" government and toppled the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

The retired general also faulted U.S. intelligence officers for lacking the "courage" to alert him that he was receiving bad data on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction ahead of his U.N. appearance.

"Why did no one stand up and speak out during the intense hours we worked on the speech?” the ex-secretary said. “Some of these same analysts later wrote books claiming they were shocked that I have relied on such deeply flawed evidence."

Powell said he relied on the CIA to help develop his U.N. presentation but that he was not aware at the time that "much of the evidence was wrong" (Capaccio/Tiron, Bloomberg, May 4)

Was it a false pretense? Yes.

Was it a purposeful lie by the Bush Administration? Don't know.

Is it the Bush Legacy? Yes.

61 posted on 02/14/2016 7:12:17 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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GWB was a disaster that led to the catastrophe of Barack Hussein Obama. After Obama rolls over the pussy(there I said it)GOPe with his SCOTUS nomination, the America of the Founders will be effectively dead.


63 posted on 02/14/2016 7:13:52 AM PST by TTFlyer
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The Iraq War was indeed a horrible mistake from the start. It was not an act in furtherance of American interests. When you consider that Iraq had nothing to with 9/11 and that we were still in Afghanistan at the time, OBL was still on the loose, it becomes an unforgivable mistake. Any candidate who is not willing to say that should be eliminated from consideration.


68 posted on 02/14/2016 7:21:31 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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Anyone want to defend Bush the Younger here?


77 posted on 02/14/2016 7:35:27 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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