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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Here is the simple, painful truth. Trump is with over 60% of the American people in this view.

I was invited to the Oval Office in 2006, along with Victor Davis Hanson, Sir John Keegan, and two other historians to discuss the ongoing war. Bush listened a lot. We strongly recommended that he tie “Islam” to the War on Terror, and that without doing so the mission would lose focus. Victor Hanson actually suggested (and we agreed) that Bush begin using the term “Islamofascism,” since that was the best we could do. He wasn’t going to indict Islam. So I’m hardly a “Code Pink” guy.

But the fact is, 13 years after the invasion of Iraq, a large, large majority of Americans see it as a mistake; most Americans believe there were no WMDs there (regardless of the 500 tons of yellowcake removed or the Russian trucks heading for the border). Trump is with the large majority of Americans on this and by tying Jeb to W, no matter how much the GOPe/donor crowd booed, Trump will see his support rise, especially on the general election.


17 posted on 02/14/2016 6:36:40 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I think that few foresaw that the international left, in addition to our own left, would take up the cause of islamo-fascism. They all wanted us to lose. I view of Sadam’s rape rooms and invasion of Kuwait that was hard to predict but then they control information warfare.

Then after we had brought stability, a new left President claimed credit for the stability and then abandoned efforts to maintain it. Perhaps this was part of his greater middle east in flames strategy.


56 posted on 02/14/2016 7:04:28 AM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: LS
Whatever Trump believes or actually knows, he has great situational awareness and played the right card in the debate, as your numbers support.

Maybe the world has always been like this and I'm only just now coming around to it, but I think the world, and more importantly, what we think and feel about it in our interconnect way, is fairly mixed up/messed up these days.

With our politics and one-stream media especially, what is real, what is make believe? What truths are told a certain way to justify what the full truth would not? What is a blatant lie? Who is trustworthy? And when do they lie?

Whatever the reason(s), the full story about WMDs, along with the other reasons we used to invade Iraq, hasn't been told.

Maybe a President Trump will tell US the full story and it would be good for US to finally know.

As it is, I don't trust GuvCo at all and I think invading Iraq was a very costly mistake, just one of many.

Now running out of hope and options, "I want to believe"...that a President Trump can turn this crazy around before we, the frog in a pot, are "stick a fork in US" done.

If this election is a sign on the road we're on, it says: "Last Exit Before The American Apocalypse"

69 posted on 02/14/2016 7:22:51 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: LS

Trump lost me on this. The limited intell Bush had at the time about chemical weapons from a worst case military point of view had to be assumed correct and acted upon. Our
troops did a hell of a job and were greeted as saviors from Hussein by the populace, remember their joy when his statue was pulled down. Our mistake at this point was appointing a civilian, Bremer to pacify the divergent civilian tribes instead of The military’s eminently designed and qualified
Corp or Army Civil Affairs, G-5 Section to oversee and maintain control of for our own best interests. Had we done so Iraq might be free today and an ally in a troubled area
that might have negated the violent Muslim surge toward a Caliphate.


102 posted on 02/14/2016 8:13:00 AM PST by late bloomer ( Neglegere homo pone aulaeum. semi-retired warlord)
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To: LS

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110 posted on 02/14/2016 9:07:46 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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