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Cruz’s misleading attack that Trump ‘convinced’ the gov to ‘bulldoze’ a widow’s home
https://www.washingtonpost.com ^ | February 13, 2016 | Michelle Ye Hee Lee

Posted on 02/13/2016 10:23:41 AM PST by NKP_Vet

"Trump bankrolled politicians to steamroll the little guy, a pattern of sleaze stretching back decades. Worse? Trump still supports eminent domain today."

Who knew such a wonky topic would find its way into political attacks in the Republican presidential race? An ad released this week by Ted Cruz's presidential campaign lodged a renewed attack on Donald Trump's support for eminent domain and alleged use of the government's powers for private gain, to bully an elderly woman out of her home.

There are two problematic aspects of this ad: the misleading headlines that accompany the narration and the cherry-picked footage of Trump's answers that misrepresent the context of his statements. We took a look at these two elements, the context of the ad and the actual sources of the quotes and footage the ad used.

The Facts

The case

In 1994, the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority, a government agency, attempted to seize an elderly widow's home. The agency tried to invoke "eminent domain," which refers to the government's right to acquire private property for public use.

The house was located near the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. The agency wanted to turn the house and two other properties over to the Trump Organization. Trump had planned to landscape the area and build a new parking lot, with a waiting area for limousines.

The woman, Vera Coking, was in her 70s and had lived in her home for 37 years. She refused to give it up. Then, a four-year court battle ensued.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; atlanticcity; cds; cruzlies; eminentdomain; trump; washingtoncompost
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To: Persephone Kore

“I wish we had a better candidate than Cruz, but he’s what we’ve got.”

I wish he was a Natural Born Citizen, but he’s not that either.


301 posted on 02/14/2016 10:44:57 AM PST by Lower55
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To: Lower55

His status as a natural-born citizen appears to be uncertain. I do hope he is a natural-born citizen, because if he were ruled not to be, then there would be no true conservatives (constitutionalists) left in the race.


302 posted on 02/14/2016 11:18:16 AM PST by Persephone Kore
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To: Persephone Kore

“His status as a natural-born citizen appears to be uncertain.”

Herein lies the rub. A Natural born Citizen’s status is never uncertain. There is no choice. It is what it is, without any gymnastics.


303 posted on 02/14/2016 11:28:39 AM PST by Lower55
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To: ridesthemiles

It’s a paradox, for sure. Shouting about his religion one minute, and then oozing sleaze and dishonesty the next. A complete disconnect.


304 posted on 02/14/2016 11:29:59 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Romans 8:38-39)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Some are concerned with the judges Trump might pick, even though he named TWO good conservative picks in the debate.. Cruz lied about that this morning on ABC.

First Roberts, now this.

Ted Cruz is good pals and voted to confirm Obama’s favorite for Scotus, Srikanth Srinivasan to another court.

Cruz, who clerked with Srinivasan at the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, quipped, “I am hopeful that our friendship will not be seen as a strike against you by some.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/04/10/obama-republicans-senate-judges-srinivasan/2068991/


305 posted on 02/14/2016 11:31:51 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Lower55

To be more precise, what is uncertain is the definition of “natural born citizen”, since the Constitution doesn’t spell it out.

For each particular definition, Cruz’s status is certain and unambiguous. But people disagree on the definition.


306 posted on 02/14/2016 12:20:33 PM PST by Persephone Kore
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Now I know that my comment has everything to do with both...

Reagan was only middling. He ran with Bush, remember.

He had a halo... and so does Cruz. Trouble is, halos can hide things that matter.


307 posted on 02/14/2016 12:56:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Persephone Kore

“since the Constitution doesn’t spell it out.”

Sure it does when it says something about a natural born citizen OR a citizen at the time of the signing. (paraphrasing) that means there is a difference between a natural born citizen and a mere citizen. It’s there if you have comprehension skills. Of course the reader can’t have an agenda. That’s where all the gymnastics take root.


308 posted on 02/14/2016 12:59:38 PM PST by Lower55
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To: Lauren BaRecall

To clarify... Reagan and Cruz encouraged the idea of American pride. Reagan’s halo area was rugged individualism, Cruz’s halo area is a touted constitutionalism. Both are revered icons in Americana. Both also miss even larger issues.

Trump is not playing to American pride so much as urging that we do things that will make America something to be proud of again. This means work before flattery. It doesn’t sell so well to a certain set.


309 posted on 02/14/2016 1:00:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Persephone Kore
>>His religious positions are, at best, problematic for a political leader.

I'm not so sure Thomas Jefferson would agree with that.

Cruz doesn't assume dominion over other's faith - but he does walk the walk for what he professes. I don't see that as a negative.

310 posted on 02/14/2016 1:07:12 PM PST by HLPhat (Preventing Global Cooling one tank full at a time!)
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To: Lower55

The case involving Bellei (circa 1970) pointed out that the citizenship of a person who is a citizen of the USA by virtue of a law of Congress in effect when he is born, can be lost by virtue of another law of Congress. This would imply that this is not NBC.

The founders didn’t want a president whose citizenship in the USA would be in doubt from any angle. While it is exceedingly unlikely now that Cruz could lose citizenship, maybe a law that says if you failed to comply with some other law affirming citizenship (like has been bandied about for him in 1974 — AND which happened for Bellei in a different manner) your citizenship is in jeopardy, could bring him back under a cloud.

We have to ask, for whom does the Bellei toll? To make a pun.

Cruz may be a conflicted redneck here. His move of most integrity might be to throw support to another candidate, and the most logical one would be Trump.


311 posted on 02/14/2016 1:08:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HLPhat

>>His religious positions are, at best, problematic for a political leader.

>I’m not so sure Thomas Jefferson would agree with that.

That is a strange analogy... Cruz’s religious views seem virtually antithetical to Jefferson’s.

But Cruz has a commitment to political freedom along Jeffersonian lines, so that’s what I’m going on.


312 posted on 02/14/2016 5:11:37 PM PST by Persephone Kore
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To: Lower55

They needed to add the alternative about being a citizen at the time of signing, since no adult at the time was a natural-born citizen of the United States (the US not having existed when they were born).

Of course there is a difference between a natural-born citizen and a mere citizen (who could have become a citizen by naturalization, some time after birth). No one is claiming otherwise.

The point is that the Constitution does not specify whether “natural-born citizen” means (1) “citizen at the time of birth”, (2) “citizen due to being born geographically in the United States”, or (3) “citizen due to being born geographically in the United States to a mother who was in this country legally”, or (4) some other variant of this. One can imagine many possible variants, of course.

I had always understood it to mean (1) — in which case Cruz is a natural-born citizen. But conceivably a court will rule for one of the other definitions, in which case he’s not.


313 posted on 02/14/2016 6:03:11 PM PST by Persephone Kore
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To: Persephone Kore

>> Cruz’s religious views seem virtually antithetical to Jefferson’s.

Jefferson went off the rails because he couldn’t get his head around the concept of the trinity - not because he didn’t believe in an Almighty God.

The Trinity isn’t so hard to comprehend in the context of today’s modern cosmology - with the relative benefits rendered by the insights of Einstein and Co.

God the Father: God beyond temporal space and time.
God the Son: God in human, temporal, form.
God the Spirit: God mediating between the temporal and non-temporal.

Jefferson also blew it on his “CODE FOR MORALITY” - which De Tocqueville later recognized as the “TYRANNY OF THE [populist] MAJORITY” unfolded in the French Revolution.


314 posted on 02/15/2016 3:32:37 AM PST by HLPhat (Preventing Global Cooling one tank full at a time!)
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