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Ted Cruz Was Asked Three Years Ago About the ‘Liberty’ of Private Landowners in Eminent Domain
The Blaze ^ | February 10, 2016 | Jon Street

Posted on 02/11/2016 4:06:19 PM PST by kiryandil

Ted Cruz has slammed Republican rival Donald Trump for supporting eminent domain – but it appears the Texas senator was once in favor of it, too.

In his run for the U.S. Senate in July 2012, Cruz was asked during a debate about his stance on eminent domain when it comes to securing the U.S.-Mexico border.

"Let me ask you about a constitutional issue: liberty," the moderator asked Cruz. "What about the liberty of the hundreds, if not thousands, of private landowners in Texas whose land would be seized by the government for what even some in your own party say would be an ineffective project? What about their liberty?"

Cruz responded by saying that he had been a longtime advocate for liberty, but added one stipulation...

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; border; cruz; eminentdomain; trump
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To: Labyrinthos

Do they not understand it or do they want to lie and spin to try and make Trump look good?

Rhetorical question.


21 posted on 02/11/2016 4:28:17 PM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: House Atreides
It IS embarrassing. I’ve found that when a person previously knowledgeable of this distinction becomes a Donald Trump supporter, the brain cells that had retained that knowledge atrophy & die.

Funny...that's the same thing the DUmmies say about conservatives.

22 posted on 02/11/2016 4:28:32 PM PST by CASchack
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To: xzins

While I tend to agree with you about the pipeline, I think a case could be made that the existence of the infrastructure to Move oil could be considered a national security interest like the electrical grid, and as such, ED might be an appropriate tool. I have my doubts, but I would at least be wiling to listen to the argument.


23 posted on 02/11/2016 4:30:03 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: dschapin

“Public use v. Private use. This is comparing apples to oranges.”

He’s for Keystone too. That is most certainly not “public”.


24 posted on 02/11/2016 4:30:06 PM PST by moehoward
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To: JediJones

Willful blindness.


25 posted on 02/11/2016 4:30:45 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: CASchack

Can you point to a link showing the DUmmies who are concerned about Trump supporters flip-flopping on eminent domain?


26 posted on 02/11/2016 4:31:54 PM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: moehoward

Energy is public policy. That’s why we have a strategic petroleum reserve. We need cheap availability of energy to support potential military endeavors.


27 posted on 02/11/2016 4:32:56 PM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: CA Conservative

Good argument, but the electrical grid (and natural gas grid) delivers electricity to Joe Q. Public consumers. The pipeline delivers oil to refineries on the gulf coast so that they can ship refined oil to the highest bidder anyplace in the world.


28 posted on 02/11/2016 4:36:14 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: kiryandil

All Trump has to do is show that one of Cruz’s promises is to approve the Keystone Pipeline, which would be impossible without eminent domain.


29 posted on 02/11/2016 4:37:39 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: moehoward

Who is for Keystone, Trump or Cruz.
If you are referring to Cruz where has he said that eminent domain should be used to complete the Keystone Pipeline. I haven’t heard anything, course I am a college student with a busy schedule so I might have missed it.


30 posted on 02/11/2016 4:37:59 PM PST by PA-LU Student (https://www.tedcruz.org/l/ducking-donald/)
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To: Labyrinthos
And where, pray tell, do you think the Strategic Oil Reserve is located?

I'll give you a hint. All locations are on the Gulf Coast

31 posted on 02/11/2016 4:41:29 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: moehoward
Keystone could be considered a public use because it is a common carrier, much like power lines are considered appropriate takings under the 5th Amendment. And it is noteworthy that the entity which sued in the Kelo case to prevent the taking at issue their has taken no position on the Keystone pipeline:

http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/07/donald-trump-jeb-bush-eminent-domain-and

But Steven Anderson, the Institute for Justice's managing vice president [which was the libertarian public-interest firm behind the Kelo case], told ThinkProgress that the group’s focus is on making sure eminent domain is reserved for "traditional public uses," and that it does not currently take a position on pipelines in general or Keystone XL in particular. Instead, he said, the group focuses on "“obvious private to private transfers."

32 posted on 02/11/2016 4:43:20 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: bigbob

“Passing the Keystone pipeline is a good start, but we need a job-creating energy agenda, far broader. The energy revolution that is already underway can produce the jobs and opportunities that our country needs to grow. All the federal government needs to do is get out of the way and let Americans do what they do best: dream, innovate, and prosper.” - Ted Cruz

Sen Cruz Files Pro-Growth, Pro-Jobs Keystone XL Pipeline Amendments

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, today introduced three pro-growth, pro-jobs amendments to S. 1, the Keystone XL Pipeline Act, of which Sen. Cruz is a cosponsor.

https://www.facebook.com/SenatorTedCruz/posts/676783042433999


33 posted on 02/11/2016 4:43:50 PM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: CA Conservative

We agree. The case of a large project like that is, in priciple, no different than a strip mall in a small town. That was scotus dilemma. They couldn’t find a way to distinguish between the two with integrity, so they just approved all economic impact eminent domain. Security distinctions could be a legitimate consideration.

One thing, however. A town should be able to zone in an economic initiative. If an individual refuses to sell, then they should have to pay the new tax rates and upgrade requirements. Trump’s house lady should have had to pay the new requirements, but she also should have been able to put in a restaurant or shop or whatever in the midst of that development to enable payment of the new rates.


34 posted on 02/11/2016 4:44:16 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
The pipeline would not be obviously legitimate.

So sure are you? Explain the railroads.

35 posted on 02/11/2016 4:44:29 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: scooby321
South Carolinans don't like Lawyer talk

Who does!   ;-)

36 posted on 02/11/2016 4:45:48 PM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: House Atreides
Itis kind of embarrassing that many American citizens are not aware of the distinction between takings intended for the benefit of the public (such as a border wall) and takings intended for the benefit of a private owner (such as a casino operator).”

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It IS embarrassing. I’ve found that when a person previously knowledgeable of this distinction becomes a Donald Trump supporter, the brain cells that had retained that knowledge atrophy & die.

Funny, but I can say the EXACT SAME THING about Cruz supporters when they are confronted with the fact that Cruz was born in Canada and therefore INELIGIBLE to be president.

37 posted on 02/11/2016 4:46:14 PM PST by bayliving
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To: kiryandil
This has to be fake, 2012?
Nobody was taking about building a wall to secure the borders until Trump brought it up this year.

Also:
Most all Eminent Domain is used against Private Landowners.
The issue not taking OF private owner but FOR private purpose:

It's not that hard, think 3rd grade class, which one doesn't belong:
Border Wall for national security
Bridge for evacuating island
Tacky Hotel parking Garage
Pipeline for National resources

38 posted on 02/11/2016 4:47:57 PM PST by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: Raycpa

Last sentence of the Fifth Amendment.


39 posted on 02/11/2016 4:48:08 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: pgyanke

Just because they happened doesn’t make them an obviously correct application of eminent domain.


40 posted on 02/11/2016 4:50:16 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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