Posted on 02/09/2016 2:47:00 PM PST by bkopto
Months after the tragic shooting at a health clinic in San Bernardino, FBI agents are still unable to unlock the phone used by one of the attackers, according to new statements by FBI director James Comey.
Speaking before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Comey mentioned the case as a prime example of device encryption hindering an investigation. "In San Bernardino, a very important investigation for us, we still have one of those killer's phones that we have not been able to open," Comey told the Committee. "It's been over two months now. We're still working on it."
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I was thinking about the military ours, the Russians, the Chinese. NSA is military so I just do not buy that those militaries are all so far behind that they do not use something similar.
So unless you have some inside knowledge, you are just speculating in your answer. And if you do and then say something, you are in deep trouble. So it must remain speculation and opinion.
Legislation (??”this legislation”??) is not going to effect anything military at least not in other countries. It really does not matter. If it is electronic, then it is not secure and never will be. If you think that some piece of paper will secure your privacy, your data, your information that you just broadcast into the ether, you are kidding yourself.
This whole issue of keeping electronic information secure is simply a straw man for someone’s agenda. If you want to keep something private, keep it to yourself - fool proof, unless one plays the fool. Although, there was a story on Drudge about AIs reading people’s minds ...
Quantum computers likely already exist, but then if one does exist, we will be the last to know.
Using ‘something similar’ means that it is at least one step above commercial grade encryption. If it above commercial grade, then commercial grade is broken - that’s how it used to work. What you postulate might be something used from one Central Command to another, if it exists at all and has nothing to do with my point.
“AFAIK, there is nothing compromising the security “ to my point exactly. If you do not absolutely know then it is speculation or opinion - if you do know then you have revealed highly classified info.
Trying to hide multiple calls to and from the WH?
“Speaking before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Comey mentioned the case as a prime example of device encryption hindering an investigation.”
I suspect that’s exactly why they “can’t get in”.
Yeah, but brute force - if we're just talking about iCloud, using any kind of ICANN email addy - maybe a week ... Asian-sourced 256-bit encryption - maybe a year ... they'll get it, this is all false flag bs designed to manufacture consent ...
“I was thinking about the military ours, the Russians, the Chinese. NSA is military so I just do not buy that those militaries are all so far behind that they do not use something similar.
So unless you have some inside knowledge, you are just speculating in your answer. “
Well, that is actually baseless speculation on your part. It’s not a classified secret that publicly available encryption is strong enough to resist brute force methods to crack it. This is common knowledge for anyone involved in IT, mathematics, or related disciplines. It’s not a matter of opinion either, because these things are demonstrable with precise mathematical certainty.
It’s also common knowledge, not speculation, that the only reason everything isn’t as securely encrypted as iPhones is that not every system has implemented the necessary measures yet. That includes militaries and government entities, which are actually BEHIND the curve in these areas and trail the private sector most of the time. You see, when Apple decides to make their systems more secure, they just do it. When the government decides to make their systems more secure, they debate the best way to do it for a few years, then take bids for the contract and usually end up giving it to some incompetent crony who goes overbudget and can’t meet deadlines.
By the time they catch up to the private sector, whatever upgrade they just implemented is probably already surpassed by the new technology the private sector is coming up with. Government simply doesn’t innovate, or even keep up with the private sector in these areas anymore.
“Legislation (??â€this legislationâ€??) is not going to effect anything military at least not in other countries.”
Nobody, except yourself, is talking about “military” encryption. The subject of the article is private encryption, the subject of the Congressional hearing is private encryption, and the subject of the legislation Congress is considering is private encryption.
“It really does not matter. If it is electronic, then it is not secure and never will be.”
You can tell yourself this, I guess, but that doesn’t make it true.
“Quantum computers likely already exist, but then if one does exist, we will be the last to know.”
Not likely, since, as I said, the government is not really innovating in these areas anymore. We are just taking the first baby steps in developing this technology, I think it will be a decade or more before we see even a very simple working quantum computer, and that is a very optimistic estimate.
Ok have it your way ...
Thinking about it I just would love to believe you, but there’s something that just doesn’t ring true ... sort of like I’ve heard that entire spiel verbatim elsewhere. I don’t know nutten compared to whiz-bang smart guys I guess. Who somehow missed my entire point ... oh well.
I mostly say 15 year old but you might be correct.
Just how much are we paying these FBI guys, again?
If the FBI/State/CIA had performed proper screening on the front end they wouldn’t have to put out this BS on the back end. Executive/Judiciary doesn’t want info to come out-simple.
Try O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E or B-O-S-C-O
Yep. They’re in the phone but just don’t want to spook the rats
I couldn't agree more.
Muzzies can kill. Government can enslave.
Government can kill too I think I’d rather be dead than enslaved
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