Posted on 02/07/2016 7:51:46 AM PST by cotton1706
If you ever wondered why the man leading overwhelmingly in the polls gets booed to hell at these republican debates and gets minimal applause and frequent consternation from the audiences, Trump has given us the answer: the audiences are packed full of top republican donors.
Trump in a "drop the mic" type moment pointed this out after members of the audience booed him for supporting eminent domain, "That's all of his donors and special interests out there," Trump said, who noted Jeb and everyone else in the debate also supports eminent domain when it comes to the Keystone pipeline.
"That's what it is, and by the way, let me just tell you, we needed tickets. You can't get them. You know who has the tickets? Donors, special interests, the people that are putting up the money. That's who it is."
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The campaigns also set aside debate seats for their biggest financial backers, arranging receptions and briefings for them on debate days.
"I heard people here saying, 'I've been to three, how many have you been to?' " said Washington lobbyist and GOP fundraiser Richard Hohlt. "There are people who are almost debate groupies."
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Just a reminder; I say this as a Trumpeteer.
A secondary reminder; I don't think any of the candidates is much better on Eminent Domain. I think citizens will continue to get scrood out of their property regardless of who is in the White House.
Because my post was off topic, I intended to type Trump is ALSO is dead on...
So eminent domain for delivery of the property to an independent company is okay if it's oil related, but not if it's Trump's company.
Thanks to Kelo, this may be true, but I highly doubt it. Historically, almost all eminent domain uses had been for energy transmission, water transmission, communication transmission, and roads... in other words, infrastructure so that we could ALL have access to the important basics... not so a few small neighborhoods could look nicer and bring in more tax dollars.
Trump worship is getting really deep.
That’s correct. Public USE, not public PURPOSE, as the USSC has tried to change it to.
In some states, not all, the owners applied for a certificate to allow the use of eminent domain to acquire property regulated by the state public services commissions or whatever they are called in various states. This allow them to not have to get approval for every acquisition of land for the project. That does not mean the pipeline is regulated for cost, price etc like a public utility would be governed.
Property rights are extremely important to me and like any power enumerated in the Constitution, the government should be limited and these amendments by judicial fiat erode and undermine those limitations leaving citizens with no recourse and the well connected like Trump can fancy a parking lot for limousines. To me, he has demonstrated perfectly the establishment mentality and I was insulted when he said that it was just that no one bothered to explain Kelo to conservatives as if we’re clueless about the decision.
The Philadelphia and Lancaster Turnpike, begun in 1792 was a privately owned road... the first railroads were privately owned and folks were forced to sell their land for construction.
So, the pipeline is about private companies, managed by a commission, that controls rates is still a private business. Any business that hangs out a shingle is open for 'public use' in those contexts. It is not my degree of ignorance at play, it is your scrounging to try and mix wordage.
Once again I submit most eminent domain is used for redevelopment of older distressed areas for upscale development that increases the tax base.
I loved that moment more than anything since the speech by Nicolae Ceausescu which lit the Romanian revolution. In a way, it was an inversion, as in Romania it was the anti-liberty, party hack lecturing the people who’d grown sick of oppression.
Here, through Trump, it was exhausted Americans longing for liberty and prosperity schooling the dead soul, political parasite apparatchiks of the GOPe.
Win or lose, the establishment’s walls are cracking and falling, largely due to that crude but robust battering ram known as Trump. The Geriatric Old Plotters and their minions will be retreating to the keep soon.
If only those people in the audience could realize how profoundly they are hated, how useless they are, and how expensive they are to maintain. Brush up your resumes, minions, lackeys and catamites! You’ll be needing them.
Plus he is just plain childish, rude, and UNPRESIDENTIAL.
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That Little ol lady lived in that house till 2010. She then moved into and old folks facility.
Her husband and her bought that property in the 60s for about 20 grand, was offered 1 million and simply would not do it.
She moved to the San Fran Bay area as I understand.
On the other hand, I have not heard from the rest about Reids dealings in Las Vegas where he had BLM land turned into development properties for his buddy Rhodes, then got a per cent kickback from the sale of each lot sold.
But Trump is bad for offering a lady 1 million for a lot that was bought for some 20 grand. Yet Reid is good for getting BLM land turned over for nothing and then collecting on the eventual sale?
it will benefit many private corporations.
Give me a break! Its crony capitalism and well connected moguls like Donald Trump will use politicans to squash the private property rights of people like Vera Coking and you’re going to actually sit here and defend this unconstitutional expansion of eminent domain?
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I didn’t defend anything, I pointed out the facts. I specifically stated you have to split the blame, but the fact is the government made the final decision, they could have simply said no. That’s not defending either side. It’s simply pointing out the facts, which you won’t hear on the news.
Trump has to share some of the blame, he used his wealth and connections for his personal gain, but the government has to take a share of the blame too, someone could have just said no. That’s not defending either one, just stating the facts. And Trump is not the only one that’s ever done it, just the one taking the heat for it right now.
My point was, nobody has been willing to call out the government, whether federal, state or local, for their part in it. And they have the final decision, not the developer.
The courts have long since held that public use is the furtherance of the public interest. Atlantic City has been in poor governance for some time. They didn't allow for sufficient parking. If the sole tax base were casinos, then the public interest was in expanding parking. Buying up older homes with fair compensation is legal and completely within precedent.
Your 'fancy limousine' comment shows your real motive here.
Nothing wrong with them unless you are a democrat trying to prove that republicans are heartless. What is republican about forcing someone to sell something they don’t want to sell just to “increase tax base”
Eminent domain is proper for any mode of transport operating as a "common carrier" -- public highway, railway, pipeline, electrical transmission lines, etc. E.g., Keystone will transport any shipper's crude oil to any refiner's refinery.
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