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Cruz vs. Rubio
Townhall.com ^ | February 5, 2016 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 02/05/2016 10:08:07 AM PST by Kaslin

I have, since last September, written several times that I think the 2016 campaign comes down to a race between Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. The loss in Iowa after leading in the ten polls preceding the caucuses has taken the wind out of Donald Trump's sails. He is refusing to invest in New Hampshire and will not buy expansive data to micro-target voters.

I suspect Christie, Bush, Kasich, and Fiorina fade. Ben Carson is already fading. Despite Carson's attacks on Ted Cruz over urging Carson supporters to stand with Cruz, the facts are that Ted Cruz's campaign relied on CNN reporting to tell Cruz's supporters that Ben Carson was getting off the campaign trail after Iowa. Carson's campaign has cut fifty staffers and is already announcing more cuts after New Hampshire. Carson will be out soon. He is using Ted Cruz as a way to stay on life support, but his campaign is over.

Trump, as long as he stays in, is more an opportunist who will say and do anything to get elected. Trump was recently endorsed by former Senator Scott Brown, who won a special election in Massachusetts, lost re-election, then moved to New Hampshire to try to get back to the Senate. Trump has been hopping party to party since the '90s trying to get himself into power. The endorsement was fitting. The endorsement, like Sarah Palin's albatross around Trump's neck, will not save him.

That leaves Cruz and Rubio as the last men standing. Both have substantial war chests and heavily funded super PACs to run ads and build ground game operations. Rubio continues to get endorsements from political leaders, but Cruz continues to pick up sizable support from people mad at political leaders.

If voters feel like the 2016 election is the last election to save the American experiment, Ted Cruz really is their only option. If voters feel like things are coming to an end in this country without drastic action, they really do not have a choice between Rubio and Cruz. They have only Cruz. Cruz is the disruptive candidate. A voter who feels like the end is near without drastic action has to take the gamble on Cruz, who still has a good chance to win.

Rubio, on the other hand, is the candidate for voters who think the best days are still ahead of us regardless of what happens in 2016. Democrats may fear Rubio as a candidate, but the base of the Democratic Party does not fear him like Ted Cruz. They think they could wait out Marco Rubio, even after eight years in power, and see few of their advances surrendered.

Washington's lobbyists think that Marco Rubio will not be a disruptive force to them. They know Washington will still be mostly the center of people's lives to a greater degree with Marco Rubio than with Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz will burn Washington to the ground and throw lobbyists on the street. Marco Rubio will strategically raze parts of Washington, putting fewer lobbyists in danger than Cruz. At least that is the thinking, and it is the thinking that is reflected in the attacks on both men.

For critics of Cruz, he cannot win. The reality is that Cruz can win, but if he wins those lobbyists and politicians attacking him will be out of a job. The Washington elite have every incentive to stop Cruz because he absolutely would be transformational, though his path to victory may be harder than Rubio's.

For critics of Rubio, he will not go far enough. The reality is that Rubio may have an easier time winning, but his critics do not believe he will go far enough and do as much to fix the problems in Washington.

Cruz and Rubio would both be conservative to varying degrees. What is at stake between the two is how easy their election would be and how transformational their presidency would be. Rubio backers are looking at the path to the White House. Cruz backers are willing to take a gamble on the slog of a general election campaign so they can see Washington rent asunder.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: consestablishment; wrongwayerickson
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1 posted on 02/05/2016 10:08:07 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

No Rubio, never ever.


2 posted on 02/05/2016 10:12:05 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

A lot of good points made in one article.

Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 02/05/2016 10:12:24 AM PST by C210N (Supporting the Constitutional Conservative in the race. Constitutional Conservative Cruz.)
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To: Kaslin

Erickson may be right on this.

And yes, Trump ‘will say anything’ as we are seeing.


4 posted on 02/05/2016 10:15:37 AM PST by lifeline (The Bible alone and in its entirety is the Word of God.)
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To: Kaslin

They both have something to hide.

Hmm? Should be interesting.


5 posted on 02/05/2016 10:18:30 AM PST by dforest
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To: skeeter

No Rubio, never ever.

if Rubio is indeed nominated, Hilary Clinton thanks you in advance for your support...


6 posted on 02/05/2016 10:18:40 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Kaslin

Very good article. But I disagree with the Cruz can win. I don’t think so. And I am desperate to keep Clinton out of the White House. If Cruz wins the nomination I am l in for him. But it scares the crap out of me. He has a much harder path. A real long shot.


7 posted on 02/05/2016 10:20:01 AM PST by andy1954
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To: skeeter

No Rubio, never ever.

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Never say never. As things stand right now, I’ll take Rubio over Trump.

And if it came down to a Rubio/Hillary race, we all know who you’d vote for.


8 posted on 02/05/2016 10:20:51 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Is Ted Cruz a US Citizen? Yeah? Then Shut Up and Vote for Him.)
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To: IrishBrigade
if Rubio is indeed nominated, Hilary Clinton thanks you in advance for your support...

Uh uh, I fell for that crap last time and held my nose for Romney, my nose-holding days are over.

9 posted on 02/05/2016 10:21:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: lifeline

10 posted on 02/05/2016 10:25:42 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: IrishBrigade
Right I've heard that before.

Won't work this time. If Kid Amnesty wins we're screwed anyway. So I'll write in my own choice.

With a completely clear conscious.

11 posted on 02/05/2016 10:25:47 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter; All
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This Florida Tea Party voter thinks that Marco Rubio is a lyin' skank democrat-lite political bastard ...

My birthday wish is to publicly confront Mr. Gang of Eight at a Florida political forum ... and call him out for the DESPICABLE LIAR he is ...


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12 posted on 02/05/2016 10:28:36 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Kaslin

Hmm, another Townhall ‘Trump is finished’ piece.

As much as these people would like to spin it, Trump’s showing in Iowa wasn’t some huge blow. He was almost never ahead in Iowa, first trailed Carson then Cruz. He fought hard for Iowa but in the end he was a NY boy in farm country.

This race is hardly between Cruz and Rubio. Trump is the clear frontrunner and people need to just accept it.


13 posted on 02/05/2016 10:28:37 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Kaslin

Well he doesn’t think too well.


14 posted on 02/05/2016 10:29:08 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: andy1954

He has a much harder path. A real long shot.

Quite frankly, any Pub candidate will have a hard time changing the Electoral College map...

He will have to sweep Ohio, Florida, and Virginia, as well as some other smaller tossup, like Iowa...

Republicans have to determine who is best positioned to do that, and vote for him/her...to do otherwise is, well, counterproductive...


15 posted on 02/05/2016 10:29:40 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Kaslin

Neither Cruz nor Rubio can win a national election. And I am factoring in Hillary Clinton being hauled away at some juncture.

Many of us here at FR believe the US still has as many conservatives as we did in the 1980’s.

And sadly, we don’t.


16 posted on 02/05/2016 10:30:44 AM PST by Dana1960
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To: andy1954

It will be a hard path in the sense that everything will be thrown at Cruz, but I don’t buy the MSM/dem/conventional wisdom theory that a conservative can’t win the general.

The moderates are the ones with a terrible track record of losing the general.


17 posted on 02/05/2016 10:32:58 AM PST by lifeline (The Bible alone and in its entirety is the Word of God.)
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To: Kaslin
Gee Eric “Establishment” Erickson explain this.

Despite non stop hit pieces from you and the rest of the “Conservative” media machine, and the “greatest ground game in history” Cruz leaves Iowa with only 1 more delegate then Trump/Rubio.

So what other state, other then Iowa and his home state of Texas,, do you think Cruz is going to win?

18 posted on 02/05/2016 10:33:55 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: andy1954
I disagree with the Cruz can win. I don’t think so. And I am desperate to keep Clinton out of the White House. If Cruz wins the nomination I am l in for him.

First off, welcome to Free Republic.

Second, don't buy into the media spin that Cruz can't win. He has never been treated fairly by the media and when people start to learn about how he tried to help his sister and her son people will see he is not the "bad guy" that those who fear him try to make him out to be. He is not liked in DC because he will change things. When he went to the Senate he didn't join the "old boys club" and they hate him for it.

I love him for it!

19 posted on 02/05/2016 10:35:10 AM PST by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: lifeline

Agreed and that is why I am arguing for Rubio.


20 posted on 02/05/2016 10:35:16 AM PST by andy1954
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