10 Reasons Iowans Deserted Trump (puts it all together)

Newsmax ^ | February 2, 2016 | Nick Sanchez

[GodGunsGuts]

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Gathered below are 10 reasons Iowans deserted Trump in the caucus...

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Trump fully expected to win...

Trump wanted to win Iowa, but he never predicted nor expected he would win. When he was asked for a prediction the day before the caucus he declined to say he would win. Your assessment is wrong.

[fingers_crossed]

I heard him mention it once or twice but that’s it. But actually I was talking more about the present administration.

[altura]

I’m not Angy.

[altura]

We have no way of knowing what he thought about winning in Iowa but his actions afterwards are a pretty good indication that he was surprised and disappointed.

[Mount Athos]

i don’t get it either

[vette6387]

“A lot of the Trump supporters had to go and vote for their real candidate Hillary so she didn’t get her butt kicked up between her ears.”

Recently I’ve seen so much moronic comment here, that I wonder if there’s something in the water the country over. Just how does a comment like this serve the discussion? This sort of “rhetoric” tends to occur where there is a serious degradation in IQ.

[freespirit2012]

Ok smokingJoe— Trump will get crushed at the SEC by Cruz.... I take your word for it.....

[going hot]

I was surprised she stuck her neck out for him, same goes for Phylis Schaffly.

Actually I wish Sarah was running...cause I'm actually looking for a candidate that really really does care about "we the people."

Curious.

You are surprised that she would stick her neck out, indicating bad judgment, but then you would like to see her run for president, indicating that you would trust her judgment.

Perhaps, the reason that she stuck her neck out is because she in fact, as you state, does care for we, the people.

[freespirit2012]

Is amazing what passes for rational discussion on here... lol....

[Teacher317]

Trump was polling as the leader, and was just 1201 votes (out of 187,000) from finishing in 3rd.

Trump was pulling in massive crowds everywhere he went, and yet Cruz pulled down more Iowa Caucus GOP votes than anyone in history.

If NH doesn't go as well as predicted (Trump 38, Cruz 13), then none of his big leads in the next dozen states will mean anything. A BIG NH win is now so crucial for Trump that he had two campaign events there today... despite being up by 25 points.

[austinaero]

The former Governor of Alaska did endorse Trump for President on 20 January 2016, bit it was an endorsement that she appears to have offered without compensation.

Palin wanted to do it.

[freespirit2012]

ok.. am sure Trump is frightened...

[austinaero]

Speaking of high negatives, Cruz has record high negatives in NH. Wonder what tricks he’s got up his sleeve to offset that.

[Robert DeLong]

Newsmax poll:

In a Republican presidential primary, who would you prefer as the GOP nominee?

Dr. Ben Carson - 285,354(13%)
Gov. Chris Christie - 79,568(3%)
Gov. Jeb Bush - 105,649(4%)
Gov. John Kasich - 39,168(1%)
Sen. Marco Rubio - 64,153(3%)
Sen. Ted Cruz - 308,385(14%)
Donald Trump - 427,742(20%)
Carly Fiorina - 13,527(0%)

[Techjock]

It seems it meant quite a lot to Trump. Its all he can talk about.

[Teacher317]

NYC Values hit home, hard! Flame away NYC FReepers, do not care.

I just wish that Cruz had said "NYC media values"... and thus had taken away all of the NYPD, NYFD, 9-11, and other emotional appeals... most NYC folk would have simply nodded in agreement. There but for one little word...

[DoughtyOne]

Trump was 3.3% from winning Iowa without dirty tricks or camping there for over a year.

I’m actually satisfied with his finish there.

If his finish there was the result of some sudden turn, what does that tell you about the vote before the turn?

I wouldn’t play that turn up too much.

Doughty, this is beneath you. Trump fully expected to win and all his supporters expected that as well.

Iowa was very important then and to come on now and say Iowa didn’t matter is disingenuous. Iowa probably doesn’t matter much but saying it after Trump lost is just pathetic.

I didn't think those comments were that inflammatory. For some reaon you did.

Trump was in the 3.3% range.  There's nothing that controversial there.

I was satisfied with his finish.  Of course I wanted to see him win, but getting one less delegate than Ted isn't exactly a blow out.  I was satisfied.

If his second place showing was made larger by some of the shenanigans pulled by other teams, that does cause one to think his standing may have been better than the final vote reflected.

If Rubio and Cruz did sophon off voted from Carson, then both their totals came outhigher than they otherwise would have. I think it's reasoned to address that.  With what we know it is a dynamic of the final result totals.

That being the case, listing ten reasons why Iowans abandoned Trump seems a bit iffy. One reason alone, that some folk don't want to talk about, could have swung the votes from Carson to Cruz and Rubio, thus impacting Trump negatively.

I don't think that's being mean or making comments that are somehow seen as a low blow.

The Iowa Caucus was always an iffy proposition to me.  Yes, when the polls seemed to swing in Trump's direction I thought he had more of a chance than he previously had, and I may have said I thought it looked like he might win.  Look at the free for all at the caucus stations though.  Yikes.  That's what was gnawing at the back of my mind leading up to Iowa's Caucus.  You can never know what's going to happen there, because those caucus stations completely out of control.  Candiate's opearatives are right there corrupting the vote right up until the last second.  That process doesn't look like anything I've come to think of as a reasoned secure voting process.  Even if Trump won, the way that thing was run, I'd say the same thing.

Early in the evening before the caucus was officially opened up to votes, I voiced the opinion it didn't look good having the candidates or their operatives there. I think that was a fair comment not being influenced by an already revealed result.  I maintain that thought now.

Your last sentence above, it addresses arguments I didn't make.

[vette6387]

“Is amazing what passes for rational discussion on here... lol....”

Glad to know I’m not the only one to see it. And most of them are critical of how the RATs operate. They need a mirror.

[freespirit2012]

You are not the only one by far..... In fact I am pretty sure you are in the vast majority here...

[Teacher317]

I'm not saying frightened... I'm saying that I think he has his eyes on it. A second surprise result that falls short of expectations would NOT be a trend that he would want to see on the front page. He would have to double his effort in every state, including the ones like NH where he should be able to glide in on auto-pilot.

Do you Trump folks feel the need to blow everything out of proportion?