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Cruz defies the odds, wins Iowa, trumps Trump
Cruz defies the odds, wins Iowa, trumps Trump ^ | February 2, 2016 | Steve Benen

Posted on 02/02/2016 2:43:05 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Going into the Iowa caucuses, there were some questions that no one was able to answer with any confidence. Would Donald Trump's voters show up when it counts? Was Ted Cruz's on-the-ground field operation as good as advertised? Was Marco Rubio closing strong and earning some of his media hype? Would someone please wake Ben Carson?

Everything is quite a bit clearer now.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz won the hotly contested Iowa Republican caucus on Monday night, fending off a tough challenge from Donald Trump and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

With 99% of precincts in, Cruz led with 28% of the vote versus 24% for Trump, 23% for Rubio, and 9% for fourth-place Dr. Ben Carson.

There's no shortage of chatter this morning about the results, but let’s try to cut through the noise and break things down from a pitch-vs-hype-vs-truth perspective...

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carson; cruz; rubio; trump
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1 posted on 02/02/2016 2:43:05 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Cruz defies the odds, wins Iowa, trumps Trump”

After spending a whole year in Iowa, and millions on organization. Has only one more delegate than him. Will be behind him and Rubio after New Hampshire.

What’s your point?


2 posted on 02/02/2016 2:46:12 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

I posted the article for its analysis, not to make a cheap political point.


3 posted on 02/02/2016 2:51:56 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: VanDeKoik
“Cruz defies the odds

He did, but in the opposite of success. He is locked in a threesome with an amnesty advocate and a New Yorker with a funny haircut. Not only that, he played dirty pool with Carson to get it.

4 posted on 02/02/2016 2:55:16 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: VanDeKoik

Card counting is also considered defying odds.

~~Go Trump Go~~


5 posted on 02/02/2016 2:59:51 PM PST by Gator113 (~~Go Trump Go~~)
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To: Lagmeister

Cruz never really had a chance to win it all, he will not be the nominee, just making the establishment sweat, drama for the media, and hope, destined to tears for all of us.


6 posted on 02/02/2016 3:01:46 PM PST by QuigleyDU
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To: GodGunsGuts

Cruz is uninspiring but I have to give him credit for a having good “get out the vote” ground game. That is the most crucial factor in a close race.

It is unlikely he is going to be on top from here on out. I think Trump has to worry more about Rubio than Cruz.


7 posted on 02/02/2016 3:10:58 PM PST by WRhine
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To: GodGunsGuts

It’s nice to come in first, but the reality is Cruz’ big win gives him 8 delegates, Trump and Rubio each have 7 delegates. Tune in next week.


8 posted on 02/02/2016 3:13:09 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Is this posted as a joke?
Cruz’s received 51666 votes
Iowa population = 3,107,126

= 1.66% of Iowa population!

Difference between Cruz & Trump = 6239 votes = 0.20 % of population.


9 posted on 02/02/2016 3:17:33 PM PST by entropy12 (Trump - NOT funded by Goldman Sachs. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Defies odds? Good God there is no other state that is more for Cruz’s supporters then Iowa. They are really making too much of this. Had he won by 20 points I could see this being at least decent, but 1 delegate. They are taking this way too far. If I were Cruz I would be a bit more humble of course he has no idea what that means.


10 posted on 02/02/2016 3:21:16 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: GodGunsGuts

How do you think he’d do in NY,NJ and California?


11 posted on 02/02/2016 3:22:13 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: entropy12

Tell that to Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and every other news and analysis website I have been reading. All of them are saying that given the turnout, Cruz’s win is historic and totally unexpected.


12 posted on 02/02/2016 3:22:50 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Pattern: Dems lose about 60-70k voters compared to last time, GOP picks up 60-70k “new” voters day of primary. Rubio an Open Borders Establishment candidate all of a sudden gets a huge boost. GOPe has done this before with Demo crossover voters to get rid of conservative candidate.


13 posted on 02/02/2016 3:23:11 PM PST by Mechanicos
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To: GodGunsGuts
I posted the article for its analysis

PMSNBC for analysis? Surely you jest!

14 posted on 02/02/2016 3:25:19 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: GodGunsGuts

If trump won Iowa, trump supporters would be mocking Cruz supporters. Now they act like its no big deal, Iowans are dumb....

Christianity Today

This sort of political discourse is starting to affect how evangelicals talk about Trump. A notable exception is Russell Moore. He has consistently presented a line of argument—and not just name calling. His major thesis is that Trump is immoral by Christian standards. This is a fact: from Trump’s owning of strip clubs to his bragging about sleeping around to his Nietzsche-esque notions of power. Moore believes that a leader’s moral behavior will affect his leadership, so he argues that no Christian should support a candidate like Trump. This will not convince all Christians, but at least it’s an argument grounded in the fact of Trump’s moral behavior.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/january-web-only/why-donald-trump-threatens-to-trump-gospel.html

Charisma Magazine

“The late Dr. Jerry Falwell Sr. would be rolling over in his grave if he knew the son who bore his name had endorsed the most immoral and ungodly man to ever run for President of the United States,” John Stemberger, president of Florida Family Action, said in a statement Monday. “Trump is a thrice married owner of casing with strip clubs and would give us the first ‘First Lady’ who has proudly posed in the nude while supporting gay marriage and funding Planned Parenthood with taxpayer money.”

Unique in So Many Ways

Indeed, Trump would be like no president before him.

The first to be married three times, cheating on the first two (and probably the third).
The first whose wife appeared nude in a magazine.
The first to boast of his sexual proclivities, claiming to have had sexual relations with some of the “top women in the world.” (This is who Sarah Palin is supporting?)
He will be the first that has owned casinos with strip clubs.
To proudly proclaim that he will seek revenge against his personal enemies “as viciously and as violently as you can.”
His wife will be the first first lady that has posed for lesbian porn.
And with that last bullet in mind, do you really think for a minute that Trump opposes gay marriage?

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/54750-evangelicals-please-don-t-let-donald-trump-fool-you


Why Donald Trump Threatens to Trump the Gospel

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/january-web-only/why-donald-trump-threatens-to-trump-gospel.html


Donald Trump talked about his Christian faith Saturday, but said he’s never sought forgiveness for his sins.
The event is a gathering sponsored by several socially-conservative Christian organizations, including the Family Research Council, a socially conservative lobbying organization; Liberty University, the world’s largest evangelical university; and the National Organization for Marriage, a group established to prevent the legalization of same-sex marriage.
Trump, who told CNN earlier that he is both anti-abortion and anti-same-sex marriage, said people are surprised to learn about his Christian faith.
“People are so shocked when they find ... out I am Protestant. I am Presbyterian. And I go to church and I love God and I love my church,” he said.
Moderator Frank Luntz asked Trump whether he has ever asked God for forgiveness for his actions.
“I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so,” he said. “I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”
www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2015/july/morning-roundup-72715.html


15 posted on 02/02/2016 3:26:50 PM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Linda Frances
Cruz spent 700.00 per vote in Iowa ( Gezz)

Trump 300 and gain 1 Vote Stupid

16 posted on 02/02/2016 3:32:36 PM PST by scooby321
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To: GodGunsGuts
Exactly what odds did Cruz defy. Evangelicals by and large in Iowa have never picked a winning presidential candidate that has competition. Obama won Iowa last presidential election. No way Cruz will carry Iowa come November.. Obama illegals will see toooooo that. Bank on it!
17 posted on 02/02/2016 3:37:08 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Cruz put more into it than Trump so he won. More ads, better organized ground troops and just out classed Trump. New Hampshire is going to be close and if Trump sticks to this tiresome “I'm winning in the polls” he will lose his ars.
18 posted on 02/02/2016 3:39:18 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Just mythoughts

Bottom line he won Iowa when all trump supporter said Ted couldn’t win.


19 posted on 02/02/2016 3:40:14 PM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Linda Frances

Hopefully this stuff will start sinking into the brains of some of Donald Trump’s more unhinged supporters on this site and abroad.


20 posted on 02/02/2016 3:42:53 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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