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Iowa Caucus Live Thread
2/1/16

Posted on 02/01/2016 3:07:17 PM PST by markomalley

A search shows that nobody's opened up a live thread for tonight's caucuses. So here goes.

Predictions? For both the GOP and Dem nominations?

Eyewitness Accounts? See any funny business going on?


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 55738337; canadian; cruz; diebythepolls; effinglazishereagain; ia2016; ineligible; iowa; iowacaucus; livebythepolls; liveiowacaucus; trump4subsidies; trumplost
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To: WTFOVR

>> I am of the opinion that both her and Bill are demonically possessed.

Oh come on... you believe that some people are actually inhabited by DEMONS??!?

Me too. :-)

satan and his minions are alive and well in Washington.

Barack Obama too. Since birth. Through his daddy’s side of the family.


3,861 posted on 02/02/2016 3:47:53 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: LS

Yes, the establishment is back in the saddle again but without its beloved Jebbie. Otherwise, pretty much normal for uninformed voters.


3,862 posted on 02/02/2016 3:53:47 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: altura

“But he has other Big Deals to go on to.”

Not really.

He’s failed at just about everything he’s done.

Except being a professional celebrity in the Kardashian mode.


3,863 posted on 02/02/2016 3:57:01 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kenny

GFY


3,864 posted on 02/02/2016 3:57:30 AM PST by festusbanjo (Obama..Incompetent, Untrustworthy, Lawless, Arrogant. The one that our founders warned us about.)
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To: frankenMonkey

LMAO!!!! That’s great!!


3,865 posted on 02/02/2016 4:52:49 AM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: YankeeMagic
What did Rush say ??

"Last Tuesday Rush stopped being fair and balanced and went whole hog for Ted cruz.Rush's brother is a cruz bot and his lawyer mark levin has a daughter who is engaged to a guy that works full time for cruz.

Anyway after doing that crap for all Tuesday Limbaugh comes on to the radio the next day and claims "he is not for any one candidate."

He might as well have slugged us all in the face it was such a blatant lie.

It's been down hill for rush ever since.

Throw in beck supporting cruz since the Donald won't come on his show and you have a huge talk radio clusterfork.

3,866 posted on 02/02/2016 5:30:35 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: DrewsMum

Name the last time a real conservative lost the general election.


Name the last time a real conservative won the nomination.


3,867 posted on 02/02/2016 5:39:06 AM PST by QuigleyDU
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To: LS
Hopefully, teddy the cruzer is going nowhere. He's as slimy as they come.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/30/unbelievable-ted-cruz-campaign-sends-out-personal-shaming-letters-to-iowa-voters/

This mailer posed to look like an official Iowa state doc is an example of just how slimy a Cruz can get.
Add in he told people Carson was quitting and you have a true slimeball.

http://therightscoop.com/carson-accuses-cruz-of-telling-caucusers-he-was-dropping-out-cruz-camp-denies/

About an hour ago Morning Joe bimbo asked Cruz's campaign mgr. about both issues and he couldn't answer either question.

3,868 posted on 02/02/2016 5:46:18 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Same situation as Jindal.

Who had the good sense to get out. First generation Americans make great patriots. There must be plenty who are eligible.

3,869 posted on 02/02/2016 5:47:15 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: editor-surveyor
Iowa snuffed Trump’s lie.

He never was a “front runner.”

Actually it wasn’t Trump’s lie, it was the MSM’s lie, but he reveled in it nevertheless.

Over.


Its over, for Cruz

Just ask Huckabee and Santorum about their newly found "front runner" status....
3,870 posted on 02/02/2016 5:58:34 AM PST by arl295
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To: LS

That’s silly. The elites do not have the numbers, and the people will decide among the insurgents. It’s simple math, 38% < 62%.


3,871 posted on 02/02/2016 6:30:04 AM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: tumblindice

Oh, I’m backing Trump, but if Cruz wins the nomination, we should back him against the Socialist/Communist candidate. I can’t hack Rubio too much but even he would be better than what the Dems prop up.


3,872 posted on 02/02/2016 6:36:04 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: WTFOVR

God is still on his throne. The world is getting darker but his glory and abundant prosperity are rising upon us, His people (Isaiah 60). “All things work together for good” for his people and “nothing by any means will hurt you” (Luke 10:19). I personally am holding out for recovery in America. Either way we, his people, will flourish. Take heart.


3,873 posted on 02/02/2016 6:45:46 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: jwalsh07
I am not trying to convince you of anything. You are not interested inn the truth. Good luck.

I haven't asked to be convinced, only to have someone explain precisely what Cruz supposedly did to defeat the Gang-of-Eight bill, and what he did that amounted to a poison pill.

No one has explained it because they can't. It's just a rewrite of history by Cruz, who actually tried to add amendments that would have improved the bill in some ways. And, as video from 2013 showed, he did want the bill to pass.

The article you linked is all about how he tried to improve the bill, and the Cruz poison pill explanations never surfaced until this presidential campaign and Trump's elevation of the immigration issue.

3,874 posted on 02/02/2016 6:48:48 AM PST by Will88
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To: Tennessee Nana

I really like Carson, and I can think of nothing critical of him as a man of principle and character. I just think Cruz is the best man for the job. It really is that simple.

Carson’s paid staff in NH all quit and are now volunteering for Cruz. I think Carson just doesn’t have the money to continue and if he dropped out now because he doesn’t want to owe any money after he is out, that is extremely honorable.


3,875 posted on 02/02/2016 6:57:56 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Jim 0216
It is doubtful Cruz will go on to victory from here. I do not believe his message plays well across the country. But if he's the guy, I do not see lots of change in DC - nor am I counting on any candidate or POTUS to make change. It is a sideshow, while behind the scenes, Goldman and other special interests milk us.

That said, here's the recent Iowa Record of who they picked and who went on to win:

Here is Iowa’s track Record:

1976 (January 19): Gerald Ford (45%) and Ronald Reagan (43%)
1980 (January 21): George H. W. Bush (32%), Ronald Reagan (30%), Howard Baker (15%), John Connally (9%), Phil Crane (7%), John B. Anderson (4%), and Bob Dole (2%) 1984 (February 20): Ronald Reagan (unopposed)
1988 (February 8): Bob Dole (37%), Pat Robertson (25%), George H. W. Bush (19%), Jack Kemp (11%), and Pete DuPont (7%)
1992 (February 10): George H. W. Bush (unopposed)
1996 (February 12): Bob Dole (26%), Pat Buchanan (23%), Lamar Alexander (18%), Steve Forbes (10%), Phil Gramm (9%), Alan Keyes (7%), Richard Lugar (4%), and Morry Taylor (1%)
2000 (January 24): George W. Bush (41%), Steve Forbes (31%), Alan Keyes (14%), Gary Bauer (9%), John McCain (5%), and Orrin Hatch (1%)
2004 (January 19): George W. Bush (unopposed)
2008 (January 3): Mike Huckabee (34%), Mitt Romney (25%), Fred Thompson (13%), John McCain (13%), Ron Paul (10%), Rudy Giuliani (4%), and Duncan Hunter (1%)
2012 (January 3): Rick Santorum (25%), Mitt Romney (25%), Ron Paul (21%), Newt Gingrich (13%), Rick Perry (10%), Michele Bachmann (5%), and Jon Huntsman (0.6%)
2016 (February 1): Ted Cruz (27.7%), Donald Trump (24.3%), Marco Rubio (23.1%), Ben Carson (9.3%), Rand Paul (4.5%), Jeb Bush (2.8%), Carly Fiorina, John Kasich, Mike Huckabee, and Chris Chritie each had 2% of the vote, Rick Santorum had 1%, and Jim Gilmore had 0%.

Iowa has a great knack for picking candidates that go on to lose. The exception is GW Bush - after the Clinton Scandals with with benefit of the Bush name and the idea that he was conservative.

The lesson appears to be that the message that appeals in Iowa doesn't resonate with the rest of the country.

3,876 posted on 02/02/2016 7:05:39 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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To: PghBaldy
I will be shocked if Cruz is the nominee.

I'd be a bit surprised if Cruz isn't the nominee. Cruz is the second choice of all the candidates, so as people drop out, Cruz will benefit. Trump is far and away the most unlikable candidate, so who's votes is he going to pick up? Once the debate state gets down to 3-4, Trump will be forced to answer serious questions about his past, and even recent positions, for which he has no good answers. Just look at the recent Steven Colbert video of Trump debating Trump.

As of now, the race is between Cruz, Trump, and Rubio. Rubio has the Washington cartel backing, and If Trump drops out, his voters will mostly go to Cruz. At some point, the Trumpites will realize that Cruz will actually do what Trump claims he would do; because so far, Cruz has done everything he promised in his Senatorial campaign.

3,877 posted on 02/02/2016 7:07:08 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: ifinnegan
Checkout today's Bloom Country strip! I can't get it to post here, but will link it.
3,878 posted on 02/02/2016 7:09:21 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changed)
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To: LS

It saddens me to say this, but Sarah Palin was the biggest loser last night.

Cruz was very gracious towards her when Sarah came out for Trump which leaves an opening for Sarah to endorse Cruz later on when Trump is eliminated.


3,879 posted on 02/02/2016 7:09:54 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Kenny

As the bride of a Vietnam Vet, I still don’t like Draft Dodgers, I don’t care what reason they chose to do it by.

As a career Military spouse I’ll chose the Veteran over any who is.

I still loath Hanoi Jane and think she should have been stripped of US Citizenship and tried as a traitor.


3,880 posted on 02/02/2016 7:13:09 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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