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Feds target rancher after family worked land over 70 years (10/2015)
WND ^ | Douglas Ernst

Posted on 01/30/2016 11:37:25 AM PST by Mechanicos

Harrold, Texas, cattle rancher Ken Aderholt and his family have worked the same land since 1941 – and now the federal government says it never belonged to them.

The Bureau of Land Management is taking stock of land along the Red River, which happens to be where the Aderholt family has lived for more than 70 years. The federal government says roughly 600 of the family’s 1,250 acres have always belonged to Uncle Sam.

“The BLM is saying we should have never had a deed to it, that Texas should have never produced that deed,” Aderholt told KAUZ-6 Texas Oct. 10. “It is a land grab. As far as I am concerned, this is private property.”

The rancher said his understanding was the federal government owned everything from the middle of the Red River to the beginning of the land’s vegetation line.

Aderholt told the Blaze on Thursday he received a phone call in 2014 from a BLM official who said, “You have reason to be concerned,” when he said the agency’s plan to redefine boundary lines along the river threatened his home.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: blm; civilwar; landgrab; texas; tyranny
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To: pgyanke; Mechanicos

I’ll say it again. You can’t gain title by adverse possession against the government.


21 posted on 01/30/2016 12:46:21 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Mechanicos
Our constitutional republic has been replaced, against our will, by one based on administrative law.

Hence the tyrannical actions of the "alphabet soup" agencies.

22 posted on 01/30/2016 12:57:41 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: PAR35

“You can’t adverse possess against the government. Good try, but a miss.”

Of course you can, the Founding Fathers did it against England...we can do it against this damned government as well...if we choose.


23 posted on 01/30/2016 12:59:21 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: MagUSNRET

I know the town and the people, this has been on our radar 2 years runnin


24 posted on 01/30/2016 1:13:07 PM PST by advertising guy
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To: P-Marlowe; Mechanicos
"Did they purchase it?"

Yes. It was called the Louisiana Purchase(1803).

The Red River was the border between the US and New Spain, which would become Mexico(1821), then Texas(1845).

The US claimed the entire Red River bed and Spain, Mexico, and Texas never disputed. The river changes course and the federally owned river bed moves.

This was all settled by SCOTUS back in the 1920s.

In that case OK sued Texas because there were slant oil wells in Texas producing oil from in OK. The US govt entered the lawsuit to assert their ownership of the river bed.

25 posted on 01/30/2016 1:14:34 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: vetvetdoug

They wouldn’t wanna piss off a Bulldog


26 posted on 01/30/2016 1:15:32 PM PST by advertising guy
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To: PAR35

Figures.
Thought it was worth a try.


27 posted on 01/30/2016 1:22:55 PM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Thanks. But wouldn’t the western bank of the Red River belong to Texas?


28 posted on 01/30/2016 1:27:38 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: Mechanicos
The destruction of private property has always ranked high on the agenda of totalitarian Marxism, in our own time revamped and revised as green occult pagan environmental religion.

Vaclav Klaus, president of the Czech Republic survived communism and now warns the world about the totalitarian "chosen ones" ultimate goal: the elimination of freedom. In his book, Blue Planet in Green Shackles, Klaus argues that murderous green pagan environmentalism masks socialism, communism, and fascism. The ultimate goal is,

"completely about power and the hegemony of the 'chosen ones' (as they see themselves) over the rest of us, about the imposition of the only correct worldview (their own), about the remodeling of the world."

Klaus further explains that the goal of neo-Marxist green environmentalism and climate change is to completely destroy private property rights and the free enterprise system by limiting the "carbon footprint" of individuals and companies, growing the size of government, and ushering in global police state socialism. Klaus told the Washington Times:

"I understand that global warming is a religion conceived to suppress human freedom."

29 posted on 01/30/2016 1:29:38 PM PST by spirited irish
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To: GunHoardingCapitalist
I believe that you're right.

The blood in the streets and cities in flames hasn't happened, much to the disappointment of soetoro / jarrett / soros.

occupy wall street fell asleep on it's mother's couch after smoking a big doobie.

blm retired to it's crib after the rioting and looting to mix up a batch of lean and watch porn on the new flat screen.

The feds need someone more dependable and who's more dependable than an American rancher?

Tyrannize him, push him to the edge of the abyss and he will fight back, giving them the excuse to institute a crackdown.

30 posted on 01/30/2016 1:33:18 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: GunHoardingCapitalist
Under the constitution the federal government cannot own land

Where does it say that? Seems in direct conflict with Article IV Section 3.

31 posted on 01/30/2016 1:49:41 PM PST by Darth Reardon (During the Great Depression, World War I was referred to as the Great War)
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To: spirited irish
That's exactly right, that's why it's one of the primary goals of Agenda21/Agenda2030. The Marxists run the UN,and right now are running the US government and all its departments/bureaus/agencies.
32 posted on 01/30/2016 2:08:39 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: PAR35; CMB_polarization; Mechanicos
I’ll say it again. You can’t gain title by adverse possession against the government.

I know. That doesn't make it right.


33 posted on 01/30/2016 2:12:28 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: PAR35
You can’t adverse possess against the government.

Sure ya can. Success requires superior firepower though...bring nukes.

34 posted on 01/30/2016 2:29:52 PM PST by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote...)
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To: Mechanicos

Had ENOUGH Yet ?


35 posted on 01/30/2016 2:54:40 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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To: Darth Reardon

I will try to dig that up for you, but I remember reading it in a legal document. Unfortunatly I am at work today, but when I get home I will try and find it and post it on this thread.


36 posted on 01/30/2016 3:13:33 PM PST by GunHoardingCapitalist (Join me in the world of next Tuesday!)
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To: Kay Ludlow
For your interest: In chapter 12 (the conclusion) of her book, "American Betrayal" Diana West cites the French scholar Alain Besancon whose impeccable logic reveals the dark spiritual side of ideology (i.e., Marxism) as a pact with the devil that captures and cripples the mind:

"The moment the individual accepts the language of ideology, he allows his mental world and his sense of self-respect to be hijacked along with the language. No matter how inadvertently he may have stumbled into the use of the official vocabulary, he is now part of the ideology, and has, in a manner of speaking, entered into a pact with the devil."

The promise of the pact resides in the three temptations of Christ in the wilderness, in particular, the devil's offer of control over the kingdoms of the world (Ephesians 2:2) if the Lord would worship him (the devil).

37 posted on 01/30/2016 3:21:49 PM PST by spirited irish
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To: Kay Ludlow

You cannot own land now, unless there is a state which does not have oroperty to taxes. I don’t know of one.


38 posted on 01/30/2016 3:23:03 PM PST by suthener
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To: Mechanicos

Because... The Feds should not take possession of land for the sole purpose of having possession.


39 posted on 01/30/2016 3:23:15 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Darth Reardon

The Constitution clearly outlines the types of possessions the Feds can “own.” Read it.


40 posted on 01/30/2016 3:24:39 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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