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Posted on 01/29/2016 9:11:08 AM PST by Jeff Head
As I understand it, the blacked out areas on the video are associated with the drone and information that might be used by those seeking to jam or defeat the drone.
FYI.
This might be the most important happening since Bundy’s ranch.
The US either participated in an unnecessary killing or they participated in an intentional or negligent killing.
It’s election season, Iowa is Monday, and emotions are totally focused on that.
This article is part of the record that must be preserved.
BTTT Good work Jeff...
Thank you for doing this Jeff.
A good, well reasoned and balanced approach given the information available. A key point will be why the victim was reaching down to his waist. If he had been shot or tased, then the use of deadly force will be difficult to justify. If he had not, then clearly the story changes.
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Well said.
i’ve reviewed the film. there is a question mark in my mind as to if the second ‘reach’ with the right hand was an involuntary response to being shot. what is necessary is audio to link the timing of the shots fired to his arm actions.
Was Lavoy carrying? If he was, was the weapon in his waistband? In a holster?
[[They Bundy’s vehicles were stopped. Lavoy, for whatever reason, chose to drive away from law enforcement who had stopped him.]]
According to the witness who was in the vehicle, the reason was that the vehicle was fired on while stopped and while the driver’s hands were outside the vehicle if I recall right- anyone would have ‘chosen’ to drive away at that point- according ot the witness, no shots were ever fired by those In the vehicle- but plenty were shot at them- miraculously missing everyone In the vehicle-
Thanks Jeff
I'm on the ranchers' side in the land fight.
It unfortunately looks like Lavoy got himself killed by driving at the roadblock instead of stopping, jumping out and acting erratically and reaching toward his coat rather than being still and keeping his hands up or just staying in the car.
Lavoy tried to bust through the roadblock by leaving the road. He was driving fast right at the vehicles until the last second. That's when the shooting began as Lavoy was driving right at them. It's terrible that he was killed but if you look at the progression (tried to elude, tried to bust by roadblock, jumped from car and probably ignored orders, reached for coat) Lavoy blew it.
One issue that needs resolution is that it appears that he was pretty much shot in the back. While this would look bad, if Lavoy was drawing from a holster on his left side, that officer would have the best vantage point for that. Not saying that’s what happened...lots of curious things and curious stories by the gov here...
Why didn’t he just stop?
[[The US either participated in an unnecessary killing or they participated in an intentional or negligent killing.]]
What I find striking is that police and FBI in fuergeson and other ‘hot spots’ around the country were given the ‘stand down’ orders likely by the president- but in this case there was no such stand down order even though Bundy’s group wasn’t anywhere near as violent as those in fuergeson and the wallstreet occupations etc
Full detailed statement:
http://www.mycentraloregon.com/2016/01/28/fbi-addresses-fatal-shooting-of-lavoy-finicum/
“He did have a loaded 9 mm semi-automatic handgun in that pocket.”
I will study this.
Prayers up for the Finicum family.
Weapon reported to be in an inside coat pocket, left side I believe. Of course the cops didn’t know where the weapon might be but they knew he was probably armed as he had advertised the fact and said he wouldn’t be taken alive if cops tried to arrest him. He was right.
I think Lavoy made a terrible string of mistakes. He had several opportunities to defuse the situation and kept escalating it instead.
Was Lavoy left or right handed?
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