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In His Own Words
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2016 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/29/2016 5:54:20 AM PST by Kaslin

"As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland." "I would press for universal healthcare. ... I would put forward a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes." "We must have universal healthcare."

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to [take in Syrian refugees]"

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." "I hate the concept of guns." "The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions." "I probably identify more as a Democrat."

"Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing to say. I'm going to take care of everybody.... The government is going to pay for it." "I believe the Republicans are just too crazy right."

"I've very impressed by [Nancy Pelosi]. I like her a lot." "Hillary is a great friend of mine. Her husband is a great friend of mine."

"I'm a liberal on healthcare." "As far as single payer, it works incredibly well in Canada." "I am pro-choice in every respect."

Those are Donald Trump's words over the last number of years. Trump's position supporting a socialist healthcare scheme is about the only consistent position he has maintained.

In 2010, Donald Trump funded Democrat efforts to stop Republicans from taking back Congress. In 2014, he switched teams and supported the Republican Establishment against conservatives. Now he has tilted all the way to the right to support the anti-establishment conservatives he so recently hated as "crazy right."

Conservatives, particularly evangelicals, have lost their ability to discern wolves in sheep's clothing. Donald Trump calls himself a Christian, but has never asked God for forgiveness and sees no need to repent. Point that out to many an evangelical Christian and they will be quick to accuse you of judging Donald Trump. And if you point out that 1 Corinthians 5 makes clear that Christians are to judge anyone who calls himself a Christian, Trump defenders will proclaim they are not electing a pastor. Paul wrote, "[do not] associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler". The Bible also implores the faithful to seek out godly men for their leaders.

Pastors in the United States -- including Robert Jeffress of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, an evangelical megachurch -- have hitched their wagons to Trump. Jeffress and other evangelical ministers seem convinced that the flawed vessel of Donald Trump can make America great again when they, as pastors, are supposed to be saving souls, not nations. Jeffress and his cohorts are seeking earthly powers to fight spiritual battles.

That men who spend their time wrapped in scripture and preaching in pulpits are quick to embrace a man who is on his third wife gets me thinking. This man is on his third wife -- after having cheated on his first wife with his second -- and says he has never asked God for forgiveness, cannot name a favorite book of the Bible and has no favorite passage of scripture. This suggests to me that many Christian preachers in this country have unsure moorings and let their homesickness for this country as they think they once knew it supersede their homesickness for the land to which they have not yet been, but to which they supposedly long.

As Screwtape wrote to Wormwood, "we want a man hag-ridden by the Future -- haunted by visions of an imminent heaven or hell upon earth -- ready to break the Enemy's commands in the present if by so doing we make him think he can attain the one or avert the other -- dependent for his faith on the success or failure of schemes whose end he will not live to see. We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow's end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the altar of the future every real gift which is offered them in the Present." Many a pastor and Christian for Trump seems hag-ridden by the Future and ready to pursue a rainbow.


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To: R Rogers

so, instead of the drive by comment...what is incorrect in his article. enlighten us.


101 posted on 01/29/2016 7:02:42 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: Elsie

I’m sorry but I have a really big adversion to people who cheat on their spouse. Do I think people can change, yes I do. It is up to God to decide that, not me.

What I have to decide is what I can tolerate in a president. Everybody has different trigger points. It’s not only that he cheated on his spouse he has bragged about cheating with other married women. On top of that to start calling an accomplished woman a bimbo, whether I like her or not, just proves to me how much he feels about women.

I know that people will call me a prude for this but I don’t care.

Good luck with your marriage.


102 posted on 01/29/2016 7:04:18 AM PST by beandog (Trumps scared of the girl)
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To: frnewsjunkie

Everyone has a right to their opinion, which should be respected.


103 posted on 01/29/2016 7:05:54 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: ScottinVA

If I wanted to just read Townhall articles, I’d just go to their site. I don’t need constant, no opinion hand selected links fitting someone’s political bent for me to do it. Have the decency to offer up some scintilla of thought about the article, analysis or just plain opinion.

I’d like to think that exchanges of ideas and opinions here are more important than exchanging pointed articles and links are.


104 posted on 01/29/2016 7:06:37 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Elsie

“You realize that government is we taxpayers are paying for those people already, either through welfare payments or subsidies to existing hospitals. “

You are exactly correct, of course.


105 posted on 01/29/2016 7:07:00 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Gaffer

Pick and choose so you can feel justified and smug?? I said just the opposite.
This isn’t even like you, Gaffer, you’re better than this! Or you used to be.


106 posted on 01/29/2016 7:07:05 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: elhombrelibre

He will push for single payer healthcare, I’m sure of at least that much.

He thinks Canada has great healthcare, and Scotland? Scotland I don’t know much about, but Canada’s healthcare is bottom of the barrel, and behind quite a few third world countries.

Take cancer alone. You’re 38% more likely to die from cancer than the US, simply because of wait times and treatment options.

Anybody who says Canada’s healthcare is a good system needs their heads examined. Last year in Canada, my healthcare cost me 38k. So much for free healthcare.

I wonder what kind of coverage I could get in the states for 38k a year.


107 posted on 01/29/2016 7:08:47 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: beandog; Gaffer
I'm not afraid though. If I get banned so be it. I will not vote for Trump. I don't vote for cheaters.

I've said this a few times. Perhaps I should copy it for repetition when that bait is again proffered.

Trump can earn my vote if he will become forthcoming an accountable for his own words. For starters, when it comes to babies, what is a "loser"?

When the Daily Caller's Jamie Weinstein asked Trump if he would have become pro-life if that child had been a loser instead of a "total superstar," Trump replied: "Probably not, but I've never thought of it. I would say no, but in this case it was an easy one because he's such an outstanding person."

108 posted on 01/29/2016 7:10:39 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: babygene

He still supports eminent domain by an out of control, overreaching government, he still supports partial birth abortion, thinks his ultra liberal sis would make a great Supreme Court judge. But mostly he’s just a mean spirited bully. How’s that going to work in the WH?? Even when you’re strong, you must compromise SOMETIME, in the WH. The second anyone disagrees with Trump, he attacks them personally. Name-calling, etc. Childishness! Immaturity! Crudity!!

See my post 72


109 posted on 01/29/2016 7:11:19 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Axeslinger

He’s being like his idol. Doesn’t agree with your positions or beliefs? Attack you personally. Ad Hominen, wow!!!!


110 posted on 01/29/2016 7:13:18 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: ScottinVA; Gaffer; MNJohnnie
You're miffed by the mode of delivery of the message, but where's the refutation of the contents of the message itself?

Asked and unanswered multiple times

111 posted on 01/29/2016 7:14:28 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: marktwain

Well fact are facts. That is why Erick Erickson uninvited Trump. Deal with it. And you knew exactly who I was talking about.


112 posted on 01/29/2016 7:14:40 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Shimmer1

I can understand you don’t like my position on it, but I think I’ve explained myself fully enough in subsequent posts about what I think about this whole feud between Cruz and Trump supporters here.

Very many posts here are sneak attacks (on both sides) and no-comment OPs that just want to start thread fights. Almost like that episode on South Park where Cartman et all egged on a fight between Craig and Tweek.


113 posted on 01/29/2016 7:15:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

{Very many posts here are sneak attacks (on both sides) and no-comment OPs that just want to start thread fights}

so why did you start a thread fight with your very first comment here at reply 2?


114 posted on 01/29/2016 7:17:26 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: don-o

Just like my question about voting for Trump if he wins the nomination. Seems like a simple thing.....

FYI, I subsequently posted my beef with the OP’s post method pretty early on. You ignore that half, don’t you.


115 posted on 01/29/2016 7:17:31 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Elsie

You hope he hasn’t, anyway.


116 posted on 01/29/2016 7:17:54 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Axeslinger

Because Erick Erickson IS a putz.....he’s the last person I’d go-to for backup. He’s an idiot.


117 posted on 01/29/2016 7:18:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Just like my question about voting for Trump


Answered. You making a list?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3390157/posts?page=108#108


118 posted on 01/29/2016 7:20:30 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: Gaffer

I answered, I just didn’t get here very fast.


119 posted on 01/29/2016 7:21:38 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Kaslin

So why did you attempt to smear Trump with the claim that Trump “smeared a former POW” when in fact, he did nothing of the sort.

He did not “smear” John McCain, and you know it.

About the only thing he did was say that he preferred people who were not captured.

Not calling a POW a hero is not a smear.

Attacking Trump with his words about John McCain is right out of the media cartel playbook.


120 posted on 01/29/2016 7:22:16 AM PST by marktwain
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