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Posted on 01/28/2016 10:11:03 PM PST by Nachum
Oregon protest leader Ammon Bundy and seven others were arrested Tuesday night. Protester LaVoy Finicum was killed in the confrontation with police and the FBI.
Unconfirmed Reports Suggest Militia Leader LaVoy Finicum Killed In Firefight With Police - http://breaking911.com/highways-closed-hospital-on-lockdown-near-scene-of-burns-ore-militia-standoff-after-reports-of-shots-fired/ …
On Wednesday Cliven Bundy, father of Ammon Bundy, told reporters his son told him the FBI murdered militia spokesman LaVoy Finicum with his hands up.
“LaVoy Finicum was murdered. Cold-blooded murder. They shot him with his hands up.â€
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OK, don't start, Rushmore.
She's got deep snow chops, more than a lot of us, it appears.
“Where did you see the 2” of clothing at 15 feet spec?”
The Manual:
https://www.stunster.com/Taser-X26c-manual.pdf
The trick is that the charge is sufficient to penetrate clothing totaling 2 inches thick between the two barbs, not 2 inches per barb. Still, that’s gonna sting...
...and this is the Civilian Model. God only knows what the LE model does. I couldn’t find that spec in a hurry.
For one example, one dipstick ran out IN FRONT of the oncoming truck.
What a fracking idiot!
You tell me, but that’s what appears to happen. Probably not the conspiracy part. But they do fire until more arrive.
“The Founding Fathers never envisioned that sort of “justice” system.”
Yeah, they used to hang murderers, rapists and horse thieves back then, too.
And they did it quickly, too. Even as late as ~1958, the time between Charlie Starkweather’s conviction (murder spree) and his execution was less than a year, IIRC.
That’s it for me tonight, I gotta get up in the morning.
Take care.
I call it “taking out the trash”.
Thinking back to when we did live in a snowy area I remember walking through it and feeling *stuck* in place as I tried to walk forward. I did fell *off balance* and probably used my arms for balance.
I’d read that Finicum was on his knees but I didn’t see that in the video and I just can’t watch it again.
At 15 feet? From the manual:
"Be sure, however, not to fire at a subject who is over 15 feet or 4.5 meters away (measure 15 feet or 4.5 meters to see how far this is – it will probably be further than you think). If you do deploy at someone more than 15 feet or 4.5 meters away, the probes will not have sufficient TASER wire to reach the target"
From the video no one was within 15 feet, let alone close enough to penetrate a winter coat.
I haven't seen any evidence of that.
Thank you for your kind words.
Now the smart ass answer to people running down lawyers is to say something like: Plumbers are fine people. When your son is arrested for sexual assault, call a plumber. BUT, I am not really very happy with or proud of the legal profession either. I got all the enjoyment out of it that I could and, because I did as I believed rather than the "practical thing, I did it for very little money. I never charged an arrested pro-lifer or arrested but responsible gun owner a nickel. Fund-raisers among sympathizing folks wo were generally non-clients staved off a foreclosure or two. One of my regular clients was a police sergeant and veteran streetwise police officer who had regular antagonism with a Captain Queeg type police chief who wanted to force his retirement to make room for some hack of the chief. One day early in the Clinton years he brought me a questionnaire given to each member of his department. The questionnaire said that there were no right or wrong answers to the questions and that they were for informational purposes. One question was: Are you willing to shoot a civilian simply because you are ordered to do so. He told them: Hell no! That would violate the constitution. Why were they gathering such information? Parabolic microphones were being purchased by police departments for warrantless searches of discussions in houses that could be picked up somehow by the vibrations of the windows in winter.
There is a LOT of scary crap out there. Good lawyers fght the crap. Most lawyers do not because it is too much trouble and no one compensates them as they wish to be compensated. When I was a grammar school kid and my dad was on strike and we were trying to live on my mother's $1.25 an hour, I came down with a very sudden and very severe ear infection. A new doctor whom we had never met was close to my school geographically and my mom who could not drive took me to him and was thoroughly embarrassed to be without funds. The doctor told her that he was giving me a penicillin shot and penicillin pills and that I was to come back each and every day for the same treatment until cured. It took seven days. He told her at the first visit that she only had to pay $7 for the first visit, shot and pills and nothing thereafter, poverty, however temporary, should not cause a child to lose his hearing. I tried to practice law like that, whether for good causes or for decent but genuinely poor people. There were others who did so as well.
That is how I repaid that doctor: by paying it forward many times over. He died a year or two ago in his mid-eighties. I pray for him and his family because he was a very decent man and a very fine doctor.
I will pray for you too for the reason that you also seem to be one of the good guys.
After reviewing the video a few more times; I can’t say if he was shot first then went for his gun, as I probably would have, or not. We do need audio to determine what happened conclusively.
After reviewing the video a few more times; I can’t say if he was shot first then went for his gun, as I probably would have, or not. We do need audio to determine what happened conclusively.
After reviewing the video a few more times; I can’t say if he was shot first then went for his gun, as I probably would have, or not. We do need audio to determine what happened conclusively.
If they were going to have a shoot-out w the feds, they would have stayed with their vehicle.
It is possible that to the witnesses in the car, who were looking over a snow bank almost as high as the windows, it may have appeared he was on his knees. It looks more like the snow is almost up to his knees.
The video clearly shows his hands were up.
Wonder if he was shot while his hands were up, and then he automatically started to reach for the spot where he was hit.
Using the ass end of the truck [~6 feet wide] as a measuring stick, it is clear that Agent Tree [Taser Guy] gets within fifteen feet - if not twelve feet as he leans in.
Surely you jest.
Entirely possible that the blockaders shot him when his hands were up.
Need the audio to confirm it though.
There’s a guy nearby with a vid; I hope that comes to light.
Everything went according to plan.
The trap was set, the trap was sprung.
The victims were shot at so they fled, directly into the kill zone.
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