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FBI Drone Captures Moment of Lavoy Finicum's Shooting
bearingarms.com ^ | Jan. 28, 2016 | Bob Owens

Posted on 01/28/2016 7:47:36 PM PST by Texas Eagle

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To: Jack Straw from Wichita
Sure, until he put his hands down/in his pocket.

He may have been reaching for a gunshot wound, not his pocket.

Cenveniently, there's no audio track.

Even though there appears to be a guy with a video camera 25 feet away, to the right, inside the group of vehicles.

So, like - where's the audio? Or is it too "inconvenient"?

141 posted on 01/28/2016 9:58:32 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil

In the full length unedited video, you can see the camera guy very clearly. Moving up and down, back and forth, trying to get a ‘good view’ while partially behind cover.


142 posted on 01/28/2016 9:59:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: kiryandil

They setup a kill zone and flushed them into it.


143 posted on 01/28/2016 9:59:40 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Sasparilla
Proves ?

Maybe not ... it's not supposed to "prove" anything

What it DOES do is SHOW !

It showed a figure in a cowboy hat get out of the drivers' side with it's hands in the air ... and a couple of fumbling motions that were too slow to be drawing on (the figure had done a 360 and knew the count against it) encroaching Feds

THAT'S what it shows

144 posted on 01/28/2016 10:00:03 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Ray76

So.... there was no real reason for them pulling him over (so to speak) at the first intersection ?


145 posted on 01/28/2016 10:02:42 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: kiryandil

I think the fact we have the drone video so soon after the incident is amazing. The rest will come out, but they’re in the investigation phase so it may be a while.


146 posted on 01/28/2016 10:04:54 PM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: jwalsh07
Would love to hear audio of initial stop.

Without any other information, it looks like they pulled him over, then patiently waited with guns drawn , for several minutes without even approaching the truck, to give him time to panic and flee the scene. That then became justification for the high speed chase, roadblock, and speculated execution,

With as many shots as they seemed to be firing, and the flashbangs, it is amazing the other three occupants of the truck survived.

147 posted on 01/28/2016 10:08:45 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Jack Straw from Wichita
I think the fact we have the drone video so soon after the incident is amazing.

That's true.

It's also true that the drone video may lead people to jump to the conclusion of a "good shoot" - when what's definitive is the audio track of the action.

148 posted on 01/28/2016 10:10:00 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: UCANSEE2
In the full length unedited video, you can see the camera guy very clearly. Moving up and down, back and forth, trying to get a 'good view' while partially behind cover.

What is the time on the video at that point?

149 posted on 01/28/2016 10:11:50 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: UCANSEE2

They never should have left the stop. One of the threads tonight mentions that they were being shot at and that the rear window of the truck had bullet holes. If true it might cause someone to flee. Also, Victoria Sharp who was in the truck with Finicum said:

“He put his hands out the window, he was trying to talk with them” “Ryan (Payne) said, ‘We have women in the car, let the women out’” “He stuck his head out and they shot at him... but they missed him.”

Sharp said that they began to realize that the police “meant business” and that Finicum, who was driving, yelled that he was going to continue driving so that he could “talk to the sheriff.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y92PvMFL0Eg


150 posted on 01/28/2016 10:12:06 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Duchess47

Or like the guy that was shot at the Costco in Nevada (las Vegas?).

One cop shouting “Hands up, hands up!” and the other one yelling “Drop the weapon, Drop the weapon.” Almost seems like Lavoy looking/turning to see each officer. Like “Oh - well which one do I listen too?”

Obviously my own bias is involved.

Sad video.

Glad that the idiot that jumped in front of the truck seemed to survive okay.


151 posted on 01/28/2016 10:13:03 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: knarf
It showed a figure in a cowboy hat get out of the drivers' side with it's hands in the air ... and a couple of fumbling motions that were too slow to be drawing on (the figure had done a 360 and knew the count against it) encroaching Feds

The fumbliing motions may be Finicum grabbing at where he'd been shot.

Audio would tell us, but there's none available.

Even though there appears to be a guy with a video camera 25 feet to the right of Finicum, recording the whole thing.

152 posted on 01/28/2016 10:14:23 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Jack Straw from Wichita
I think the fact we have the drone video so soon after the incident is amazing.

I think they did so because they believe it shows that Finicum et al were pulled over, fled the scene, were stopped by a roadblock, an LEO was hit by the vehicle and the passenger 'appeared' to be reaching to his waist for 'something'. IT also shows the second person out tossing something into the snow. The only thing that would make sense is that it was a gun.

The evidence seems to be mostly on their side.

But why did they have to pull him over to begin with ? Was it to keep him from the meeting he was going to ? Did they pull him over, and then just wait instead of removing them from the truck, figuring they would soon panic and end up slamming into the roadblock ?

153 posted on 01/28/2016 10:15:26 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Jack Straw from Wichita
And of course that was after he evaded, and after he tried going around a police roadblock, and after he got an agent with his vehicle. Sorry, but any other circumstances and there would be no one denying this was a proper shooting.

Absolutely true.

BUT.... why did they pull him over in the first place, and why was a FBI Drone following him way before he got pulled over ?

154 posted on 01/28/2016 10:17:18 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Chode
The fed looked liked he flipped his hat off like it was something he shouldn't touch with his bare hands .... we have animals that are heavily armed and heavily indoctrinated

Bundy is wise to warn everyone off and leave it to them and the courts now

155 posted on 01/28/2016 10:17:21 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: FlyingEagle

Look at 13:20 and on. There’s a laser scope being trained on LaVoy, mostly on his head. Where is it coming from? I remember reading that there was a sniper in a tree. Do they think he might be a threat at that point?


156 posted on 01/28/2016 10:18:31 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: kiryandil
What is the time on the video at that point?

Not sure exactly, but it was about 2/3 of the way through (the full unedited version).

157 posted on 01/28/2016 10:21:55 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Thanks.


158 posted on 01/28/2016 10:23:28 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: JewishRighter
I noticed that too .... some minutes after he was down and unmoving .. if not dead .. not very alive .. and they had a spot on him

Never thought I'd ever use this word again .... pigs.

159 posted on 01/28/2016 10:24:16 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: The Toll; All

160 posted on 01/28/2016 10:33:52 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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