Where is the video?
In the editing room.
Frankly, if the video is held by the FBI, I don’t believe a a damned word of that they say. Just like that tank breaching the BD compound at Waco and depositing a harmless smoke grenade that eventually killed 82 people, 22 of them children, ‘accidentally’.
Show me a goddam video or shut the f@ck up.
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He had a clear intention to be shot by the cops. Not sure what could be surprising about the fact that it happened.
He had a clear intention to be shot by the cops. Not sure what could be surprising about the fact that it happened.
First its a routine traffic stop then its SWAT.
A high-speed getaway attempt and a reach for the waistband
= = =
Tactics recently developed and perfected (and ‘accepted’ by the media) by LE at various locations across the US.
The FBI is still yet to suffer retribution for the Lon Horiuchi murder of Vicki Weaver.
The FBI can stop “considering” releasing the film of the shooting and just release it. Surely it can only help their case.
hummm, let’s see, so he was reaching for his waistband while attempting a high speed getaway?
yeah i’d like to see that. release the video.
Curious as to why they felt they could leave the refuge and run into town for a town hall meeting without being stopped and detained. Were promises made (and not kept) by law enforcement?
The article quotes officials as saying the car speed away “out of sight” where the vehicle left the road due to a roadblock. That sure puts Mark McConnell’s version of the events on shaky ground now doesn’t it.
BALTIMORE - no feds
FERGUSON - no feds
OCCUPY WALL STREET - no feds
#BLM RIOTS - no feds
OREGON STANDOFF - COLD BLOODED MURDER
this is part of the Uranium One deal where Clinton sold 20% of the USA uranium to RUSSIA... Guess what... the ranch area in Oregon has the next largest uranium deposit discovered in the 1950’s...
FACT IS THE BLM IS BREAKING THE LAW....
AND THE FBI COMMITTED MURDER...
HEAR WHAT THE REPRESENTATIVE HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE BLM AND THE OREGON RANCHERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx4ocLdWE90
sorry but lost confidence in the FBI....
is this the same FBI that had a PAID INFORMANT LIVING WITH TWO OF THE 9-11-01 HIJACKERS WHO TOLD THE FBI OF THIER HIJACKING INTETIONS AND THE FBI DID NOTHIONG .... that FBI?
is this the same FBI that “lost” the oklahoma city bomb tapes showing a second person with Mc Veigh.... and that person turns up at Logan airport as a “security guard” on 9-11-01... and was a memeber of saddam’s republican guard and had the tattoos.... and was identified by witnesses but he FBI discounted their testimony... THAT FBI?
or is it the FBI that tried to use the Boston Boming brothers to infiltrate radical islam in Dagestan and were advised by russia 3 times and saudi arabia 3 times that the Brothers were terrorists who tried to join al queda..?? THAT FBI?
is it the FBI that seized all the Solyndra records...and they are now missing...IS IT THAT FBI?
THE FBI HAS BECOME THE GESTAPO UNDER THE HOLDER/ LYNCH/OBAMA regime... YES T H A T F B I
WE ARE NOTHNG MORE THAN A BANANNA REPUBLIC RUN BY A TRAITOR.......
Would be good to see vid. Possible mistakes w/reaching for waistband:
1) If he did it as soon as he got out, maybe he was just pulling his pants up a bit, as I usually do when I first get out of the car.
2) By the waist is where your hands are at rest. Was he getting out and just not putting his hands up or was he actually going for the gun? They say the ordered him to surrender. Nothing about hands up, but that could just be an editorial omission.
Regardless, it’s usually a good idea to simply sit still if submitting to arrest to avoid quick trigger pulls. Unfortunately, the 2nd amendment has been so demonized, people think that just having a gun in the vicinity means you’re shooting at them.
In this case, his prior statements about not allowing himself to be arrested didn’t help. Being ready to fight at the park probably didn’t help the mentality either, but that was only because they felt a need to defend themselves from a Waco style hit.
The biggest problem I see here is that the article didn’t mention that any guns were recovered. May be an editorial omission.
To be arrested in this situation, for future reference, if I get out of a vehicle, I’ll keep my hands on the door!
Where is the video.I won’t believe this story until I see the video.
Today you can’t get away with spitting on the sidewalk without it being recorded on video.So where is it?
Another thing to consider is why did the other guy get shot in the arm? Was he reaching also?
He would not have been standing next to the one killed if it happened as soon as he exited vehicle. Ricochet? Would have physical evidence of that in vehicle. Something to keep an eye out for in future releases.
I’d guess there are multiple videos.
My advice: wait for the video(s) before judging and reaching conclusions.
High speed vehicle escape attempts to avoid arrest by armed and amped up police/FBI agents are not likely to end well for the perps.
flying in “reenactment actors” ....
film releaseed shortly....
I have been around these types of folks (western ranchers and cowboys) for a lot of my adult life.
I do not know one western rancher who carriers a handgun on his waist. Invariably they (myself included) have holsters when we are out in countryside.
So I question the “reaching for the waistband” story to begin with.
I will wait and see the video. But the longer it goes without us seeing it, the more questionable it will become.
Mark’s video is telling...but he was not at the scene of the shooting, and he was also not a member of the original group of people, or one of the leaders.
The girl’s story is highly emotional...but at her age and with what happened, that is understandable.
Were they being shot at as they tried to get away? Why would the Feds shoot when they knew there was basically an impassable road block just up the road? Was that vehicle literally riddled with bullets in the end?
I want to see that second vehicle. If it is riddled with bullets, then that will lend a lot more credence to everything she said.
We know Ammon’s brother was in that vehicle and he was wounded...so some rounds clearly went into that vehicle.