[Jeff Head]

I have been around these types of folks (western ranchers and cowboys) for a lot of my adult life.

I do not know one western rancher who carriers a handgun on his waist. Invariably they (myself included) have holsters when we are out in countryside.

So I question the “reaching for the waistband” story to begin with.

I will wait and see the video. But the longer it goes without us seeing it, the more questionable it will become.

Mark’s video is telling...but he was not at the scene of the shooting, and he was also not a member of the original group of people, or one of the leaders.

The girl’s story is highly emotional...but at her age and with what happened, that is understandable.

Were they being shot at as they tried to get away? Why would the Feds shoot when they knew there was basically an impassable road block just up the road? Was that vehicle literally riddled with bullets in the end?

I want to see that second vehicle. If it is riddled with bullets, then that will lend a lot more credence to everything she said.

We know Ammon’s brother was in that vehicle and he was wounded...so some rounds clearly went into that vehicle.

[xzins]

The wounding of the Bundy brother is initial corroboration of the girl’s story. Absolutely.

I actually heard on one of the cables this morning (CNBC, MSNBC or CNN) that Finicum exited the vehicle armed, and I think the announcer used the word aggressive, too.

I don’t believe it. The girl says Finicum was talking to them. This NEVER would have happened to protesters in Baltimore or Ferguson. Never.

[azkathy]

“Was that vehicle literally riddled with bullets in the end?

I want to see that second vehicle. If it is riddled with bullets, then that will lend a lot more credence to everything she said.”

I agree. I have also heard through a friend who knows someone who is in OR that the feds covered the car with a tarp and wouldn’t let anyone near it.