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LIVE THREAD Donald Trump VETERANS Rally in Des Moines, Iowa Airing Jan 28 9:00pm EST on C-SPAN
http://www.c-span.org/video/?403832-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-des-moines-iowa ^ | 1/28/2016 | Nikos1121

Posted on 01/28/2016 4:13:23 AM PST by nikos1121

I’m not really sure what will happen tonight. I truly hope that Donald Trump will keep his word and follow through on his decision to not attend the debate and hold a separate forum in Des Moines, but who knows. For now, C-Span says they will cover it.

Sometimes it’s best to walk away from a bad deal and not look back. It’s another opportunity for Trump to “teach us.” I guess we’ll see. Hopefully we won’t get whipsawed all day long and that the Des Moines rally is on and FR people here will participate.

It seems pretty clear to me that Trump was tipped off about an unformatted ambush with other activist questioners, (who may not even be Americans), with their own agendas. Did they intend to pull a Jorge Ramos on him to disrupt—maybe to get him to walk off the stage or say something regrettable?

Whose idea was it in the first place to have these people ask questions? This is the kind of maneuver we’d expect from a more left wing station, not Fox, but we’ve sure learned something this past year, haven’t we about this network, and the people we’ve allowed in our homes day in and day out?

And who wrote that chicken bleep press release that mocked Trump with references to our enemies? Was it Ailes himself? I sense the good people like Jeanine Pirro and Brett Bair are pretty embarrassed this morning. They should all be.

The Fox network intent, as I see it, is more ominous and thinly cloaked and perhaps about other things. Megyn Kelly’s objective was to make her the center of attention over the candidates and her colleagues, but already Rupert Murdoch voices his desire to have Michael Bloomberg enter the race, and we’re hearing of some backdoor dealings of his, and Fox, that favors illegal immigration. I guess we will see what is fact and what is fiction eventually.

Make no mistake, immigration, legal and illegal over the past 25 years, has altered the cultural and political trajectory of our country. Who can say if this is good or bad? It really depends on who you are. I worry that ultimately it will affect our freedoms.

Ted Kennedy and other passive politicians from both sides, and presidents have got the politics wrong about immigration. It used to be that immigrants coming here from wherever, and their offspring proudly said they were “Americans” first. Now, I’m not so sure.

Was that the political intent? To ultimately change the complexion of our nation and endanger our freedoms by pitting us against one another, and to have people coming here not to assimilate with us, but to defy us?

This will all pass, just like it did in 1980 when Ronald Reagan chose not to debate George Bush before the Iowa caucus, and maybe, before it does, it will turn the Iowa caucus on its ear with a surprise winner. I think all of us have seen through the rallies that Iowans are a special brand of people.

Those Iowans, that “usually get out and vote”, are a microcosm of the people we used to be, before John Kennedy was killed. They usually vote in the end for “the person who appears to have the best heart.” I think it’s Trump, they might think it’s Carson. I only hope that they do not take his refusal to debate as a personal affront to them.

All of our candidates are true patriots. Any one of them could lead our country better than the people who have led us these past eight, maybe 24 years. Whomever wins the nomination should have our support.

I pray that God gives each of these people the wisdom to do what is best for the people of our country. Can Fox say that the organization and spirit of their debate had that same intent? I truly doubt it.


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To: stratboy

Normal day for the howlers.


1,601 posted on 01/29/2016 2:31:06 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Liberals LOVE Open Carry!)
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To: exit82

I think they”re smart enough to realize that this is their first job interview.


1,602 posted on 01/29/2016 2:35:19 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Liberals LOVE Open Carry!)
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To: dynoman

I stopped with fox a few months ago, and just love Morning Joe, several people I know have switched to Morning Joe.

He has a great newsy program.


1,603 posted on 01/29/2016 3:41:14 AM PST by joyce11111 (he police minute)
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To: Red Steel

My husband just informed me Cruz was making a joke at Trump’s expense.

I can see it now, but i really thought he was serious!


1,604 posted on 01/29/2016 6:10:28 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: navymom1

I think Toby is more the the dope smoking libertarian type. But like I said he did spend a lot of times going to hell holes to entertain our troops. And it doesn’t get any more American than this:

American Girls and American Guys
We’ll always stand up and salute
We’ll always recognize
When we see Old Glory Flying
There’s a lot of men dead
So we can sleep in peace at night
When we lay down our head

My daddy served in the army
Where he lost his right eye
But he flew a flag out in our yard
Until the day that he died
He wanted my mother, my brother, my sister and me
To grow up and live happy
In the land of the free.

Now this nation that I love
Has fallen under attack
A mighty sucker punch came flyin’ in
From somewhere in the back
Soon as we could see clearly
Through our big black eye
Man, we lit up your world
Like the 4th of July

Hey Uncle Sam
Put your name at the top of his list
And the Statue of Liberty
Started shakin’ her fist
And the eagle will fly
Man, it’s gonna be hell
When you hear Mother Freedom
Start ringin’ her bell
And it feels like the whole wide world is raining down on you
Brought to you Courtesy of the Red White and Blue

Justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
And you’ll be sorry that you messed with
The U.S. of A.
`Cause we`ll put a boot in your ass
It`s the American way

Hey Uncle Sam
Put your name at the top of his list
And the Statue of Liberty
Started shakin’ her fist
And the eagle will fly
Man, it’s gonna be hell
When you hear Mother Freedom
Start ringin’ her bell
And it feels like the whole wide world is raining down on you
Brought to you Courtesy of the Red White and Blue

Courtesy of the Red White And Blue (Angry American) by Toby Keith


1,605 posted on 01/29/2016 8:03:57 AM PST by mouse1
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To: TexasTransplant

Carson for Surgeon General


1,606 posted on 01/29/2016 8:45:13 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: CottonBall
My husband just informed me Cruz was making a joke at Trump's expense.
I can see it now, but i really thought he was serious!



Like me you're not the only one who didn't believe or was not sure.

From Hot Air:

"Cruz also tried joking about walking off the stage if the moderators kept asking "mean questions," but the audience didn't get the joke, and Rubio followed up by saying he would stick around no matter what questions got asked. It looked like Cruz tried a little too hard to mock Trump and ended up with a bit of egg on his face..."

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/29/video-luntz-group-declares-rubio-winner-of-non-yuuuuge-debate/

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I believe the Cruz camp had to issue a statement that it was a joke. So that's how badly Cruz carried it off. I'll look to see if I can find it again.

1,607 posted on 01/29/2016 9:05:50 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Kenny

So sorry I didn’t see your reply till now! Hope you got to watch last night on cspan.


1,608 posted on 01/29/2016 9:18:49 AM PST by seekthetruth (Still praying for a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: seekthetruth

I did, thanks.


1,609 posted on 01/29/2016 9:43:33 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Red Steel

So I’m not the only one ;)

Funny his campaign had to clarify that it was supposed to be a joke!


1,610 posted on 01/29/2016 9:49:21 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

There’s a ton off bad press about Cruz this morning, and the most I’ve ever seen him get at one time. I’m tempted to post much of it and watch the Cruzers cry foul. Cruz finally made it up to Trump’s big level, wall-to-wall bad press if only temporary.


1,611 posted on 01/29/2016 10:01:48 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: CottonBall
You seen this? The Iowa paper of record DMR did not have much love for Teddy this morning.


1,612 posted on 01/29/2016 10:06:21 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Red Steel

Ouch, that’s gotta hurt!

That’s the same paper that wrote a scathing article about Trump.


1,613 posted on 01/29/2016 11:16:56 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: Red Steel

“I’m tempted to post much of it and watch the Cruzers cry foul. Cruz finally made it up to Trump’s big level, wall-to-wall bad press if only temporary.”

They won’t be and to deal with it! Cruz is supposed to be such a perfect debater too.

Funny how Paul and Rubio hit on the same topic that we are forced to hear all the time here - that Cruz is the only conservative running and everyone else are just RINOs (although posters here say liberals and call everyone not supporting Cruz a liberal as well).

Ok, now I’m mad! LOL, post those articles and let me know and I’ll respond to every one of them!


1,614 posted on 01/29/2016 11:22:32 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

Here’s Ted waah no one likes me! Funny. A nine second video.

‘Ted Cruz gets shut down after debate’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCN796sdK4

Here’s a fun article that should get them going.

From today,

“Trump kicks Cruz while he’s down” ;-)

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-ted-cruz-iowa-218410

I’ll have it up in 10 minutes.


1,615 posted on 01/29/2016 11:31:03 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Red Steel

I borrowed your picture! thanks!


1,616 posted on 01/29/2016 11:37:50 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: nopardons

It was just an analogy ... probably should have stepped back away from the keyboard after that many beers ;^)


1,617 posted on 01/29/2016 2:56:58 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: TexasTransplant

That’s okay, we all post some “strange” things due to being over tired or other things. :-)


1,618 posted on 01/29/2016 3:11:51 PM PST by nopardons
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To: joyce11111

Seriously?


1,619 posted on 01/29/2016 4:49:30 PM PST by nikos1121 (December 25, 2016 will be the merriest Christmas of all for me.)
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To: CottonBall
"My husband just informed me Cruz was making a joke at Trump’s expense. I can see it now, but i really thought he was serious!"

Some people just don't get dry humor. My husband is always using dry humor and it took me a long time to get it.

1,620 posted on 01/30/2016 1:10:25 PM PST by Spunky
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