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If Evangelical Voters Take Their Religion Seriously, Ted Cruz Will Be The Republican Nominee
PJ Media ^ | Michael van der Galien

Posted on 01/25/2016 3:04:15 PM PST by Michael van der Galien

Gary Bauer, one of America's leading pro-life and pro-family activists, endorsed Ted Cruz on Friday. In doing so, Bauer became one of many evangelical Christian leaders who have thrown their support behind the senator from Texas. Bauer explained:

"Ted Cruz is a courageous conservative who has built a consistent record on the issues that matter most. He has fought for religious liberty at home and abroad. He believes all of our children should be welcomed into the world and protected by the law. Ted knows that government is too big and that taxes and regulations are too high. He will rebuild our military strength and pursue a foreign policy that repairs our frayed alliances. Ted Cruz understands that Israel is our friend and that Iran is our enemy. He understands that border security is national security. Last, but certainly not least, Ted Cruz is committed to restoring the rule of law and repealing President Obama's outrageous executive orders."

There's a reason why Bauer, James Dobson, Bob Vander Plaats, and a host of other largely Protestant conservative leaders have endorsed Cruz: he's the Biblical choice for president. Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, explained two years ago what that phrase -- the Biblical choice -- means:

The Bible, Cruz went on to explain, tells you exactly how to vet a politician. He turned to Exodus 18:21 and made his case. Moses is in the wilderness trying to govern the Israelites, where his father-in-law gives him leadership advice: “Moreover you shall select from all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them to be rulers of thousands, ruler of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; FReeper Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: BlueNgold
It's all about policy.

Policy comes from perspective (World view). Perspective comes epistemology. Epistemology comes from religion.

Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

If you make your voting decision merely based on what a politician says about issues, you have no rational basis for trusting that he won't change his mind, is not obfuscating or is not baldly lying to you.

If you know a candidate is motivated by his religion, there is much better reason to anticipate what his decisions will be and at least you have a basis for persuasion if he goes off course.

Please consider making your choice at a deeper level than policy.

81 posted on 01/25/2016 6:36:02 PM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: nopardons
>> But the theme/topic was about ALL EVANGELICALS and NOBODY ELSE ! <<

True, but despite not mentioning other demographics, the premise is correct. If Evangelical protestants flock towards Cruz in the primaries, combined with support he wins from other Americans, he will be the nominee.

Likewise, if Cruz did well with Catholics, Orthodox Jews, Orthodox Christians, Mormons, secular voters, etc., but DIDN'T win over any Evangelicals, he would likely NOT be the nominee.

>> And just WHO is to say that those evangelicals who aren't for Cruz, aren't taking their religion seriously...the author? WHY...because he says so ? LOL <<

Based on Donald Trump's personality, record, and values, it is easy for anyone to conclude that a vote for him would not in line with evangelical Christianity. Trump is a nominal mainline protestant who attends church on Christmas and Easter and in no way held traditional moral values on the right to life or the sanctity of marriage until he had to claim it in order to run for President on the GOP side. I don't need the author to tell me this. I'm also aware that voting for the Ayatollah would not be in line with Catholic beliefs, a vote for Benjamin Nentenyahu would not be in line with Islamic values, and a vote for Jerry Falwell would not be in line with Buddhism.

82 posted on 01/25/2016 6:43:48 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: conservativejoy

Cruz is not a god. He is only a man, a deeply flawed man. So are the other candidates. This may shock you but Cruz is not perfect nor is he the messiah.

I like Cruz & will vote for him but he is not “holy”. If Trump is the nominee I will vote for him.

This idol worship of the candidates needs to stop.


83 posted on 01/25/2016 6:47:38 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Alabama Crimson Tide: 2015 National Champions. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: JSDude1
Do I know Mr. Trump’s heart: NO, but I see his fruit (by word) and past deed, and I am skeptical..

Imagine how I feel watching Ted Cruz lie about his immigration position, among other evil deeds and false statements.

84 posted on 01/25/2016 6:48:22 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: BillyBoy
Based on Donald Trump's personality, record, and values

Trump has American values. Cruz has whatever values you have that drive you to declare that "common sense immigration reform" includes "bringing those who are here illegaly out of the shadows," and then tell your supporters that you never supported "common sense immigration reform." Cruz also has the sort of values that allow you to have your SuperPACs basically run by a psycopathic Mormon who thinks Donald Trump is Hitler and that Sarah Palin is a progressive.

Cruzbots need to stop shoveling their Holier than Thou crap on us, when their candidate is a fiendish liar who embraces heretics like Beck, or Larry Huch or the weirdos at IHOP.

85 posted on 01/25/2016 6:51:10 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Theophilus

Cruz is NOT perfect, not even close. Cease your idol worship.


86 posted on 01/25/2016 6:55:32 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Alabama Crimson Tide: 2015 National Champions. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: BlueNgold
The media likes to use the word "evangelical" as a codeword for "conservative Christian" (as if conservative Catholics and conservative eastern Orthodox don't exist and every single conservative Christian in America is a born again white anglo saxon protestant living in the deep south). The article's headline and content continues that false premise.

If it were to more accurately state that conservative Christians (of ALL denominations) vote for Cruz, he will be the nominee, then the premise would much more sense.

Whether the candidate himself shares the person's faith is immaterial. I've seen numerous self-proclaimed "Christian" candidates whose record and values are anything but, and numerous non-Christian candidates whose record and values are ideal.

In short, voting for someone because he happens to be a member of the same religion as you is a bad idea. But voting for someone because he happens to share the same VALUES as you is highly recommended.

87 posted on 01/25/2016 6:57:05 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What lies, because as far as I’ve seen he hasn’t.


88 posted on 01/25/2016 7:10:50 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: CrimsonTidegirl
I said "practically perfect" and I meant it. He is the best I've ever seen in my lifetime. I could hardly imagine a more ideal candidate. To me he is better than Reagan. All the heathen despise him!

Of course, he hasn't been married three times to foreign women, funded every prominent Dem and GOPe candidate, changed his mind on all major issues at the last minute and made billions off of casinos and strip clubs. But other than that...

BTW I don't idolize Cruz at all. He's just a man, a sinner, a humble slave of Christ. Jesus has already won. I just wonder if America is on His side.

Psalm 2
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

89 posted on 01/25/2016 7:17:58 PM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Have you prayed and fasted about this?


90 posted on 01/25/2016 8:11:18 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: BillyBoy
The article stated that Cruz can win the nomination JUST WITH EVANGELICALS; he can't. And not ALL evangelicals see their faith the way you or the author do.

Jews? Religious Jews for Teddy?

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

How many Orthodox and Hasidic Jews do you know?

And after what Ted said about N.Y. state? LOL

91 posted on 01/25/2016 8:11:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JSDude1
What lies, because as far as I’ve seen he hasn’t.

Okay, so here's Ted Cruz supporting legalization of illegals, a position he claims he never supported:

"And I'd like to make a final point to those advocacy groups that are very engaged in this issue and rightly concerned about addressing our immigration system, and in particular about addressing the situation for the 11 million who are currently in the shadows. If this amendment is adopted to the current bill the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status. [Registered Provisional Immigrant] They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed under the terms of the bill they would be eligible for LPR status as well [Lawful Permanent Resident], so that they are out of the shadows, which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as their principle objective -- to provide a legal status for those who are here illlegally to be out of the shadows. This amendment would allow that to happen.

And a second point to those advocacy groups that are so passionately engaged. In my view if this committee rejects this amendment, and I think everyone here views it as quite likely this committee will choose to reject this amendment, in my view that decision will make it much, much more likely that this entire bill will fail in the House of Representantives. I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass, and so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle, if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that secures the borders, that improves legal immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows, then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromise to come together and this amendment --I believe if this amendment were to pass the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically, and so I would urge the committee to give it full consideration and to adopt the amendment."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3372213/posts

92 posted on 01/25/2016 8:33:45 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Theophilus

I agree he is a good man but I disagree about Cruz being greater than Reagan. IMO, he’s nowhere close to Reagan. I have a big problem with him teaming up with the Charlatan Glenn Beck and the “teddy bear” greeting to illegals.

But, he is a good man and I will vote for him. If he ever weakens on immigration though, that will be a dealbreaker. The illegal invasion issue is THE issue of my lifetime & I will vote accordingly. That is why I’ll NEVER vote for Rubio, Bush, Kasich etc.


93 posted on 01/25/2016 8:43:11 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Alabama Crimson Tide: 2015 National Champions. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: nopardons; Impy
>> And after what Ted said about N.Y. state? LOL <<

Ummm, I hate to break it to you, but Ted Cruz WON a straw poll of conservative Republicans in NEW YORK right after he made the "New York values" remark. Conservatives in New York DON'T like "New York values" anymore than the rest of the country does.

If he made a similar comment bashing "Chicago style politics", I and other conservatives who actually live in the Chicago area would APPLAUD him for speaking out against the socialist government we have here.

BTW, you are also aware that 92% of New Yorkers are NOT Jewish, right? If bashing "New York values" is anti-Jewish, then bashing "Alabama folks" is anti-Catholic.

You seem to very ill informed about the culture there.

94 posted on 01/25/2016 8:45:19 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: nopardons
>> The article stated that Cruz can win the nomination JUST WITH EVANGELICALS; he can't <<

Nope, it said he will win IF evangelicals vote for him. That is a correct analysis. Nowhere does it claim he ONLY needs evangelicals and he can win SOLELY by getting their support.

The only aspect of the article I'd disagree with is the part where it claims he's the "Biblical choice" for President. The Bible doesn't endorse candidates, and multiple candidates have views in line with what the bible teaches (Trump, however, is not among them).

95 posted on 01/25/2016 8:53:41 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Even if you were to win the argument that Cruz changed on immigration (I do not think you have a sound argument), you are ignoring the major flip-flopping Trump has done on the issue.

http://www.newsweek.com/who-knew-trump-favors-amnesty-undocumented-immigrants-395512

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260624/after-flip-flops-whats-trumps-real-position-daniel-greenfield

http://www.epicjourney2008.com/2015/12/trump-flip-flops-on-immigrants.html


96 posted on 01/25/2016 8:58:02 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Even if you were to win the argument that Cruz changed on immigration (I do not think you have a sound argument), you are ignoring the major flip-flopping Trump has done on the issue.

This is really rather irrelevant since the issue at hand isn't changing position, but rather lying about your history.

As for your assertion about me not having a "sound argument," I've not made an argument. It's the denial of Cruz and his supporters versus Cruz's own words.

97 posted on 01/25/2016 8:59:56 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Poison pill.

End story.


98 posted on 01/25/2016 9:00:10 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: BillyBoy
LOL....Ted Cruz is NOT going to be elected president in November of '16; nor shall he be the nominee.

You tend to ignore the facts I post and just continue living in your twee BUBBLE. Lotsa luck with that.*snicker*

99 posted on 01/25/2016 9:01:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JSDude1
Poison pill. End story.

This "end of story" depends on a huge deception: that the Gang of Eight fight had anything to do with opposing legalization after border security, which, in fact, nobody opposed at that time on the Republican side.

That's why Cruz supporters want it to be an "end of story," because looking at the details too closely reveal that Ted Cruz is a liar. So it's easier to just pretend that Cruz's opposition to "amnesty", defined as opposing the pathway to citizenship, really included opposition to legalization, which Cruz supported even after the gang of eight fight was over.

100 posted on 01/25/2016 9:02:27 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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