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If Trump and Hillary Are Our Final Options, We Deserve Some Pain
Redstate ^ | 1/23/16 | Kimberly R.

Posted on 01/23/2016 11:48:02 AM PST by TBBT

Trump is at the top of the polls, and that may not change. Nevertheless, he will not receive my support. I am rather tired of a screeching establishment requiring that we support whomever is the current frontunner, and telling us we need to "get in line", like robots. That kind of talk is groupthink, much like Obamamania. It has no place in conservatism.

Trump is the kind of candidate who appeals to base emotions and the thirst for popular appeal. We should never treat candidates as celebrities. But increasingly, we do. I once thought that those on our side of the aisle were better than liberals in that we don't vote based on mindless, superficial reasons that got the similarly resume-challenged disaster known as Barack Obama into office. But unsurprisingly, we're just as capable of the same failure to treat the election process seriously.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 16yearfreeper; 1stcanadiansenator; defeatism; redstatespam; tds; tdszot; trump; zombies; zot
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To: RIghtwardHo

See posts 2 & 4.


21 posted on 01/23/2016 11:56:12 AM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: TBBT

Be pure. Demand a cloned combination of William F. Buckley and Barry Goldwater. I would LOVE that, but it isn’t going to happen. In my estimation, Trump would accomplish two things that NO ONE ELSE would do. Curtail Mexican illegal immigration, and slow down the Muslimification of America. Okay, so maybe the EPA would not be eliminated, or abortions continue unabated. Take the HALF A LOAF. No one else is getting rid of the EPA either. Maybe Trump is full of $h!t. I am sure that is pretty much the state of affairs with politicians. Pretty much every other option will be worse than what Trump offers. Flame away, I can take it (or turn off the computer).


22 posted on 01/23/2016 11:56:44 AM PST by fhayek
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To: TBBT
PAIN is being spit on and shafted over by the conservatives who convinced you they were on your side.

PAIN is electing a majority in the house has gotten us nothing because they'r too big a COWARDS to use the power of the purse.

Now it's time for something completely different

So if you can't lead, you need to either follow of get the Hell out of the way, or yes, there will be PAIN.

23 posted on 01/23/2016 11:57:36 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: tennmountainman

I swear RedState has hired a bunch of interns to file Trump hit pieces, 24/7.

Sure seems like it :(


24 posted on 01/23/2016 11:57:38 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: TBBT

Red State and Eric Erickson...good bye!
Freegards
LEX


25 posted on 01/23/2016 11:57:57 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you


26 posted on 01/23/2016 11:58:03 AM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Cruz rode Trump's coattails . The ride is over . With Cruz we lose)
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To: RIghtwardHo
This is an utter, and complete, disaster.

Who created the vacuum that allowed Trump to gain a foothold?

The Republicans thought conservatives were going to go through the motions and hold their noses again for whatever POS nominee the establishment put up, and got completely burned.

Now all of a sudden we're getting treated to articles about Trump's past liberal statements - FROM THE SAME CLOWNS THAT DID NOTHING ABOUT THE DOLES, MCCAINS, ROMNEYS AND TONS OF OTHER REPUBLICANS WHO AIDED AND ABETTED THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IN CONGRESS.

My vote goes to Trump, or Cruz if he somehow makes it. I am NOT voting for anyone else, and that includes Republicans on down-ticket races.

27 posted on 01/23/2016 11:58:11 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: TBBT
We should never treat candidates as celebrities. But increasingly, we do.

We didn't before the invention of the television camera. After that, politicians became ugly movie stars. And politics is now an alias for stardom. They perform for the camera just like and athlete, preacher or porn star.

28 posted on 01/23/2016 11:59:35 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: TBBT

Just sick of the GOPe mouthpieces arranging for Trump & Cruz supporters to fight each other.
Bottom line is they want someone who they control and only benefit from the bloodletting.


29 posted on 01/23/2016 12:00:28 PM PST by glasseye
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To: TBBT

Well.....that's concerning

30 posted on 01/23/2016 12:01:02 PM PST by McGruff (You ever notice some people go crazy during a full moon?)
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Whoa - summary judgment ... sort of.


31 posted on 01/23/2016 12:01:06 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Kenny

I don’t get to listen to Rush al the time but when I hear him he does what he has always done, analyze the current situation.

He is by far the most neutral, objective, commenter there is.


32 posted on 01/23/2016 12:01:14 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Jane Long; Jim Robinson

33 posted on 01/23/2016 12:01:28 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! Trump 2016!)
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To: TBBT

If Trump wins the nomination, I will be voting for the most conservative candidate on the ballot, who will definitely not be Trump.


34 posted on 01/23/2016 12:01:30 PM PST by mconley22
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Ding ding ding...we have a winner”.


35 posted on 01/23/2016 12:01:58 PM PST by glasseye
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Hey ERIC after Mitt Romney YOUR PICK we have already had some pain!!! STICK A SOCK IN IT, furthermore GO TO HELL !!!!


36 posted on 01/23/2016 12:01:58 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: TBBT

Yeb! And Hillary would show we have learned nothing. I want someone who I believe will and can stand-up to the GOPe, Dems and media.


37 posted on 01/23/2016 12:02:29 PM PST by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: TBBT

Have fun at Redstate.com.


38 posted on 01/23/2016 12:03:27 PM PST by McGruff (You ever notice some people go crazy during a full moon?)
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To: TBBT
I am glad that RedState finally understands what conservatives have been saying for 8 very very long years, that we, the people, have zero obligation to follow in lockstep with the party and actually vote for the nominee.

Chalk it up to yet another miracle of the Trump campaign... Of course, that is if they maintain this viewpoint going forward - and not simply drop it come another 4 years and they're pimping for yet another RudyMcRomney candidate and telling us to hold our noses and vote for the good of our country...

As I have repeatedly said, my vote is no longer freely given. If a candidate wants my vote, he has to campaign for it, not just in the primaries but in the general as well. I'm no longer going to hold my nose and blindly vote. I've tried it that way, and honestly, my nose is still bruised from Romney.

Both Cruz and Trump have campaigned for my vote; the two percenters have not. I won't be voting for any of the two percenters should some admittedly fantastic turns of event happen and they reach the nomination.

39 posted on 01/23/2016 12:04:12 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Jane Long

I know!


40 posted on 01/23/2016 12:04:50 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittancez)
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