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Against Trump (RINOs dedicate entire magazine to Trump bashing)
NRO ^ | January 22, 2016 | Numerous RINOs

Posted on 01/22/2016 6:44:33 AM PST by 20yearsofinternet

Trump nevertheless offers a valuable warning for the Republican party. If responsible men irresponsibly ignore an issue as important as immigration, it will be taken up by the reckless. If they cannot explain their Beltway maneuvers - worse, if their maneuvering is indefensible - they will be rejected by their own voters. If they cannot advance a compelling working-class agenda, the legitimate anxieties and discontents of blue-collar voters will be exploited by demagogues. We sympathize with many of the complaints of Trump supporters about the GOP, but that doesn't make the mogul any less flawed a vessel for them.

Some conservatives have made it their business to make excuses for Trump and duly get pats on the head from him. Count us out. Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism who would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot in behalf of a populism as heedless and crude as the Donald himself.

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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks for posting that. I saved it to my bookmarks to show DH later.

It’s funny, for years now, I have stopped calling myself a Conservative because I have felt it meant nothing anymore.


101 posted on 01/22/2016 8:06:40 AM PST by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust
BTW FR has the right to be for Trump over Cruz if they want

Oh golly, gee...
That is so big of you!

FR does not have a brain nor a processing unit. Only members.

Dissing the members only identifies you as a small person and a delusional, clueless controlling Twit.

102 posted on 01/22/2016 8:09:56 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW! evil ignorant stupid or crazy-doesn't matter!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
The people often referred to here as the "GOP-E" may not be conservatives, but they've certainly got a better claim to being Republicans than Trump does.

There lies the problem. The GOP establishment is loyal to the political party, not to any core principles or policies. Their only problem with Trump is that he's not a party hack like their candidates of choice (Jeb etc). They can't come out and say something that inane, so instead they attack his lack of ideological purity while glossing over the fact that their candidates of choice are even further to the left.

103 posted on 01/22/2016 8:11:24 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: 20yearsofinternet

“...Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism who would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot in behalf of a populism as heedless and crude as the Donald himself...”

Trump’s not my guy - I’m supporting Cruz in the primaries and whoever opposes the dem in the general. That being said, the above statement is ridiculous — except the part about Trump being crude.

If my advice were worth more than a bucket of boiled gravel, I would advise Trump - given the amount of his lead - that he could afford to be a bit more congenial. Still speak the truth, but he doesn’t have to be such a horse’s a$$ about it. Reagan is a good example to follow. He could criticize someone effectively and both would leave smiling. Perhaps Trump lacks that level of social skills/smarts...

And I also believe it takes more than just a bit of cognitive-dissonance to even imagine that there is a “broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP” that Trump would purportedly “trash” as the article asserts. For an article that they would seemingly like me to take seriously, they probably should not have led with that whopper right off the bat. It was worth a chuckle though.


104 posted on 01/22/2016 8:16:10 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Look, the issue with those people is that the first thing they're interested in is winning the election. So they almost always gravitate to the candidate they see as the most electable. Most of them would agree that they'd personally prefer a more conservative candidate, but they've become defeatist and no longer believe a strong conservative can win. So, they push for the more moderate candidates in the primaries even though they don't always prefer those policies.. For the most part, they're not evil or bad. They just think too "strategically: most of the time.

If it's just about winning, why is there so much hostility to Trump, who is certainly capable of winning the general election against Hillary (and can probably bring over more disaffected working-class Democrats than Jeb or Rubio could)?

The GOP establishment's objections to Trump aren't ideological either, otherwise they'd be applying the same ideological purity test to Jeb. So if it isn't about electability or ideology, all that leaves as an explanation for their opposition is the sense that Trump isn't "one of them," i.e. not part of the establishment club. That's a very childish approach to selecting a candidate.

105 posted on 01/22/2016 8:18:33 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: montag813

The invective coming out of Brent Bozell last night really surprised me. I had no idea he hated Trump so much. I’ve normally paid attention to what he has to say about how the media plays favorites.

He was over the top in my opinion.

Trump is not the end of the world or of conservatism.

He might be the end of the strap-hangers onto conservatism making money off of it. That would be okay. They had morphed into a comfortable Hegelian win/lose/inch toward liberalism anyway.

IOW, they cry a river —maybe even a sincere river — but they lose.


106 posted on 01/22/2016 8:20:05 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust
Brent Bozell is a great guy

Thank you for your opinion.

Now, go away.

107 posted on 01/22/2016 8:22:59 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW! evil ignorant stupid or crazy-doesn't matter!)
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To: jimbo123

This is all good, really, really good. It is outing an entire nest of these people as true insiders who don’t want any real change, who are snorting at the trough of favors and money. The first “principle” of conservatism is that America is worth protecting. That includes having borders and limiting the number of terrorists who come in. These yayhoos (and I’m being generious) are happy to sell us all down the river for their 30 pieces of silver.


108 posted on 01/22/2016 8:29:29 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: odawg

Nice list. Post it on any thread put up by the top Cruz folks, and watch the fun start. Good job.


109 posted on 01/22/2016 8:35:50 AM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
The people often referred to here as the "GOP-E" may not be conservatives, but they've certainly got a better claim to being Republicans than Trump does.

Welcome, NOOB.
This "party first," firmly entrenched in the political psyche is the handiwork of The First rapist and his wife. Since then, it has induced the ghastly assertion by Fox's blonde bimbo and her co-conspirators into asking, shamelessly and with total ignorance, "will you support whichever candidate the GOPe promotes?"

Who was the ONLY candidate to confirm that "Americans First" trumps the parties of graft, cronyism and "control?"

Restore the Constitutional Republic!

Now there's an idea and a slogan I can get firmly behind.

RESTORE THE REPUBLIC!
The government of THE PEOPLE.

A fundamental change politically which is the antipode of the clearly failed disaster of the last 8 years BY ALL PARTIES. The GOPe SHOULD be in panic mode.

110 posted on 01/22/2016 8:44:44 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW! evil ignorant stupid or crazy-doesn't matter!)
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To: 20yearsofinternet
Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism who would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot...

What "work of generations"?! The GOP establishment 'conservatives' haven't done a single thing to stop or even slow down the marxists and socialists who are destroying this great nation. Boehner, Ryan, the rest of them, have sold us out in order to keep their privileges and benefits. The 2014 mid-term election was a mandate to resist Obama and the voters were totally ignored. The GOPe have had numerous chances, and they've blown every one of them.
111 posted on 01/22/2016 8:47:36 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: 20yearsofinternet
Trump nevertheless offers a valuable warning for the Republican party.

So did Romney - but National Review failed to issue any warning.

So did McCain - but National Review failed to issue any warning.

When so-called responsible people in the Republican Party demonstrate a refusal or inability to act on true conservative values and when so-called conservative publications refuse to recognize and respond to those failures, they all should prepare to reap the whirlwind.

Nature abhors a vacuum, so welcome to hope and change, Trump style.

112 posted on 01/22/2016 8:52:55 AM PST by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failures)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Preach it brother/sister!

I mean, we haven’t heard any of this before! Well except for the let’s pile on Palin part, kudos for bringing something new to the table :)


113 posted on 01/22/2016 8:57:19 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: magglepuss

Thanks!

Share it with friends and others who feel like we do.


114 posted on 01/22/2016 9:06:06 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama is living proof off the disaster of not sticking to the Wisdom of our Founding Fathers!!)
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To: LS
Amen brother! This is all good, really, really good. It is outing an entire nest of these people as true insiders who do not want any real change, who are snorting at the trough of favors and money. The first principle of conservatism is that America is worth protecting. That includes having borders and limiting the number of terrorists who come in. These yayhoos (and I am being generous) are happy to sell us all down the river for their 30 pieces of silver.
115 posted on 01/22/2016 9:10:15 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama is living proof off the disaster of not sticking to the Wisdom of our Founding Fathers!!)
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To: publius911
This "party first," firmly entrenched in the political psyche is the handiwork of The First rapist and his wife.

I never said loyalty should be to the party first. It shouldn't be. I'm simply saying that applying the RINO label here as a pejorative is ridiculous. If you think the problem is the party itself, then the problem isn't that they're "Republicans In Name Only" -- the problem would be that they're Republicans. Come up with a different label if you'd like, but that one just doesn't fit.

It's an especially odd pejorative to use in defense of Trump, who probably is the closest thing to an actual "RINO" in the primary.

And posting words in all capital letters doesn't make your point any better, old-timer.

116 posted on 01/22/2016 9:20:03 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: 20yearsofinternet

I wouldn’t exactly call Brent Bozell a RINO. Far from it.


117 posted on 01/22/2016 9:23:12 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

Never call this bunch at National Review conservatives. Did they attempt to derail LIBERAL Mitt Romney with a hit piece four years ago? Of course not, every one of them voted for him. They hate Trump because establishment elites are a thing of the past if he’s elected. No one gives a rats ass what a snob GOP elitist thinks anymore.


118 posted on 01/22/2016 9:27:28 AM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Grampa Dave

Rush edging closer to explaining Trump. One party, Crazy Dems, is the fringe and doesn’t want to fight for us. The other, GOPe, WON’T fight for us, and I’d add that while Cruz wants to, I don’t think he can.


119 posted on 01/22/2016 9:28:17 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust

Bozzell and the rest of the Trump haters endorsed Romney twice. They have no integrity of credibility whatsoever.


120 posted on 01/22/2016 9:30:51 AM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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