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What Palin's Trump Speech Says About the State of the Conservative Movement
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | January 20, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/20/2016 3:25:10 PM PST by Bratch

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To: itsahoot
The country couldn't exist without it and you know it.

BS. Eminent domain destroys the potential for a significant options market in real estate. It kills long-term investment in land because of the threat of takings. It operates for the benefit of a very few, with corruption rampant.

181 posted on 01/21/2016 7:28:49 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

how about overturn Executive Orders, day one...and veto bills that land on his desk to be signed?

I DON’T SEE Trump doing that , period. He is like Obama and supports both abortion and gay marriage.
He needs to address these issues in his rallies, other than just “ I’ll make America Great again”... me , me, me , me... sounds like Obama!!


182 posted on 01/21/2016 7:55:18 AM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: definitelynotaliberal

He has read it, refined it and uses it everyday.


183 posted on 01/21/2016 7:57:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama is living proof of the disaster of not sticking to the Wisdom of our Founding Fathers!!)
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To: jimbo807

“Trump represents a realignment of the political landscape.”

Maybe something like “the reset button”? Bring it on!


184 posted on 01/21/2016 8:00:55 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Proud bitter clinger)
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To: jimbo807

“It matters because Cruz is a sellout.”

The Tea Partiers pretty much put him in the Senate and then he went ahead and made some terrible votes on important issues. “Ya gotta dance with the one what brung ya.” Our recently elected “conservatives in D.C. seem to have forgotten that.


185 posted on 01/21/2016 8:04:30 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Proud bitter clinger)
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To: Carry_Okie
BS. Eminent domain destroys the potential for a significant options market in real estate.

I didn't say it doesn't have potential for abuse, Jessie James was created by abuse of eminent domain, but there would be no America without it. There would be no highways, railroads, electrical grids, hydro electric power, sewers...At least not as we know those things today.

I can remember when Highway 66 was a two lane death trap, I prefer the one we have today, it is just the way it is.

186 posted on 01/21/2016 8:05:31 AM PST by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. Wonder why is he winning?)
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To: itsahoot
I didn't say it doesn't have potential for abuse,

Abuse is inherent to eminent domain POWERS.

There would be no highways, railroads, electrical grids, hydro electric power, sewers...At least not as we know those things today.

Equine feces. Think "options market." It actually improves project planning. For example, one could negotiate an option for a very modest fee that would have a second tier if a corridor were completed, and not before. That would get neighbors working out the details. Things would be different, but it doesn't mean they couldn't work. For example, the bulk of the roads in much of California were first built as private toll roads. Those rights of way were assembled without eminent domain.

187 posted on 01/21/2016 8:14:32 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

the question has been decided

you can bitch and moan but absent a reversal the eminent domain stands as is


188 posted on 01/21/2016 8:17:30 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: bert
the question has been decided

Every question can be revisited. Although the actual case in New London was a travesty, Kelo was correctly decided in leaving the details of eminent domain up to the States, the more conservative of which (such as Utah) instituted more stringent protections for private property than the Federal government. We'll all get to see what happens.

Let natural law make that determination.

189 posted on 01/21/2016 8:30:34 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: pollywog

Believe me, I hope that if Cruz wins that he can fulfil all that his supporters expect of him. I’ll vote for him if he’s nominated. But I don’t have a lot of expectations to be dashed either.


190 posted on 01/21/2016 8:45:07 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Carry_Okie
Equine feces. Think "options market." It actually improves project planning. For example, one could negotiate an option for a very modest f

You have no clue. We could go back to the days where every property owner erected toll gates to their property, or you neighbor upstream diverted your water until you dried up and sold to him. Good grief individuals can be just as crooked as corporations and governments, that is why we are supposed to be a nation of laws not men.

191 posted on 01/21/2016 9:31:49 AM PST by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. Wonder why is he winning?)
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To: itsahoot
You have no clue. We could go back to the days where every property owner erected toll gates to their property, or you neighbor upstream diverted your water until you dried up and sold to him.

Do you really think that I don't understand that problem? There are other ways to solve it than socialism.

Good grief individuals can be just as crooked as corporations and governments,

It's a matter of scaling and risk. Governments make huge, sometimes fatal mistake, but the risks get even worse when corporations can leverage to control government. That's why scaling is important to maintain competition that is the great mitigating factor.

that is why we are supposed to be a nation of laws not men.

Who said anything about not having laws? Crawl out of your 19th Century box and think for a minute. You know me better than to regurgitate this reflexive spew.

192 posted on 01/21/2016 10:01:30 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: jimbo807; Jim Robinson; holdonnow
... after Ted drops out and starts campaigning for Donald in exchange for AG or SCOTUS.

I could accept that deal. Cruz is as conservative as Scalia & Thomas and has a brilliant legal mind. Having him on SCOTUS at his young age puts him there at least 45 more years.

But I'd need to see that Trump had Cruz's confirmation in one hand and GOPe gonads in the other. The deal would have to be written in GOPe blood.

193 posted on 01/21/2016 10:45:03 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Carry_Okie
Who said anything about not having laws? Crawl out of your 19th Century box and think for a minute.

I think you are the one in the 19th century box, private toll roads and bridges went out in the 20's. What you seem to advocate is the ability of a single individual to become a financial hold out and make unreasonable profit even to bankrupt a project, sort of like the EPA does now.

I think Kelo was clearly wrong but you can thank corrupt politicians and crony capitalists not individuals that know they benefit from the development of common use facilities such as roads and bridges. It is not a perfect system but man is fallible and shite happens when people are involved but some sort of compromise is always require to move forward.

I can remember as a youngster we had 25 cycle electricity so our radios, washers and anything electric other than light bulbs, would not work the next town over that is the kind of thing that can happen when there is not some sort of standards and eminent domain is required to make that possible. The 25 cycle was courtesy of Eagle Picher mining company.

194 posted on 01/21/2016 12:23:18 PM PST by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. Wonder why is he winning?)
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To: WTFOVR

I usually read right through such things without mention, but the thought of massacred salad greens was just so humorously off-the-wall that I had to share.


195 posted on 01/21/2016 2:26:11 PM PST by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: itsahoot
I think you are the one in the 19th century box, private toll roads and bridges went out in the 20's.

They're back, or haven't you noticed?

What you seem to advocate is the ability of a single individual to become a financial hold out and make unreasonable profit even to bankrupt a project, sort of like the EPA does now.

Wouldn't happen with a functioning options market, as I already explained.

I think Kelo was clearly wrong.

Constitutionally it was correct per the Tenth Amendment. As a matter of justice to the Kelo family it was a travesty. You can read more about that, particularly as regards selective incorporation here. The problem is that when any law is defined and enforced by the FedGov, there is only ONE way it is defined and enforced. With Federalism, we get to find out how better to manage the principle.

I can remember as a youngster we had 25 cycle electricity

Yup, you're a late-19th-early 20th Century guy all righty. Consider "go metric." You know who killed it? It wasn't Americans. When the world aircraft industry found out what the cost to THEM would be, the whole thing died. Once computerized equipment was available, it really didn't matter from a manufacturing perspective any more and the costs of conversion then outweighed the benefits. Consider too the differences between 22VAC 50Hz power and our 110VAC at 60Hz. These days the electronics can deal with either. Same with motors and variable frequency electronic drives. So this idea that universal standards are some kind of advantage is wildly oversold these days.

196 posted on 01/21/2016 3:26:54 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie
So this idea that universal standards are some kind of advantage is wildly oversold these days.

Come on you know why DC was impractical, Tesla killed that off early on.

I was born in 1938 in a very small town in Oklahoma, so I remember when we barely had electric lights at all in small towns and rural areas.

Metric made it to spark plug threads because they actually stayed in the cylinders. The public would never have voluntarily accept metric, still wouldn't in my opinion.

197 posted on 01/21/2016 3:51:46 PM PST by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. Wonder why is he winning?)
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To: itsahoot

thanks for confirming your leftist street creds as you respond to disagreement just like one


198 posted on 01/21/2016 3:59:27 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: meadsjn

what legislation has Cruz wrote to help Goldman Sachs. Come on, show me.

Meanwhile in realville, Donald j Trump in Think Like a Champion says about obama-

“The good news is that Obama seems to be well aware of the situation. His comments have led me to believe that he understands how the economy works on a comprehensive level. He has also surrounded himself with very competent people, and that’s the mark of a strong leader. I have confidence he will do his best, and we have someone who is serious about resolving the problems we have and will be facing in the future.To me that is very good news.”


199 posted on 01/21/2016 4:05:07 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: RginTN
thanks for confirming your leftist street creds as you respond to disagreement just like one

Just an honest assessment of your statement.
You seemed oblivious of the facts in the article.



200 posted on 01/21/2016 4:55:39 PM PST by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. Wonder why is he winning?)
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