They Are Not Everywhere. They Are Not Like Us (propaganda achievements of homosexuals)

Crisis Magazine ^ | January 15, 2016 | AUSTIN RUSE

[NYer]

Two of the great propaganda achievements of the radical homosexual movement are the now internalized beliefs that they are everywhere and they are just like us.

Many propositions laid the ground work for the change in public opinion from the time homosexuality was openly mocked to today when you can get fired even for poking gentle fun. Much of the polling changes in attitudes about homosexuality are grounded not in acceptance but in this kind of fear.

But, these two—that they are everywhere and just like us—are two monumental but highly effective lies.

Polling data shows that most Americans think homosexuals are far numerous than they really are. Gallup shows that most Americans think that 25 percent of the population is homosexual. Among those dim and dimmer millennials, it is 30 percent. That’s right, they think something on the order of 97 million Americans, including toddlers, are homosexual.

But not even Kinsey with his utterly debunked 10 percent thought homosexuals were so plentiful in the population.

In fact, according to the best research—the Laumann study conducted out of the University of Chicago in 1994, and the recently concluded study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control—the true picture is profoundly different.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, a measly 1.8 percent of adult men and 1.4 percent of adult women identify as homosexual. This translates into a tiny 2.1 million men and 1.7 million women. This is less than half the number of Methodists in the United States.

Because they are “everywhere,” a concomitant argument they make is that attitudes have changed because of the personal interaction people have with them.

Even a casual look at the numbers would show that those would be some very busy homosexuals.

The adult population of the United States is roughly 247 million.

In order for it to be even remotely true, that it is personal relationships that have changed public opinion, you would have to assume that each of these 3.8 million homosexuals are out of the closet, wearing their homosexuality on their sleeves, and are best buds with 65 non-homosexuals each.

So, no, the proposition that they are everywhere is simply not true. And most Americans have hardly any meaningful interaction with homosexuals.

Are they like the rest of us? Certainly. They are children of God, made in his image and likeness, and deserving of their human dignity. But, in the choices they make, in their attractions and in their behavior, and in the results of both, they are profoundly different.

Robert Reilly wrote a very important book—Making Gay Okay—that raised the central issue that has been ignored in the messaging of the marriage debate. The marriage debate became about what was best for children. Children certainly do deserve a mother and a father. In fact, they have a human right to know their mother and father, though death and divorce often violate this right. But we cannot deliberately choose to violate this right of theirs. All true and very effective.

Reilly argues, however, that you cannot talk about homosexuals and the changes they propose without talking about that dirty little thing called sodomy. And this is how they are profoundly different from us.

Accepting homosexual marriage is tacit acceptance and even moral approval that anal sex is not only acceptable but that it is comparable to sexual intercourse.

I will not discuss what goes into this contemptible act which is widely and almost exclusively practiced by homosexuals and porn stars. Studies show that even homosexuals with the HIV virus still widely use this vile practice.

Robert Oscar Lopez published a blog post at English Manif a few years ago that went into long and gruesome detail about what this entails. You do not want to know how one prepares for this. It is enough to know that the anus is the body’s sewer, yet homosexuals want us to believe that using it for sexual gratification is exactly the same as intercourse.

And what are the results of this practice? Disease and death. The anus was not made for this. It was not made for penetration. The anus has thin skin that is easily broken and is therefore an easy conduit not just for HIV but for many other diseases. Yet, homosexuals want us to believe that this practice is exactly the same as intercourse.

The practice of sodomy has led to the still ongoing AIDs pandemic. A few million homosexuals make up the vast majority of AIDs patients and HIV carriers in the United States. Homosexuals still produce 62 percent of new HIV infections. More than 20 percent of homosexuals you will meet are infected.

But, homosexuals really do not want to talk about this. They try to deflect the issue by their usual snark. They call it the “gay sex is icky” argument and try to dismiss it. But, we should not let them get away with that. We should make them defend it. You will see in some publications, including New York Magazine last year, homosexuals are coming out of the closet about anal sex.

But for the most part, they do not want to talk about what this really is and what goes into it and the profoundly harmful results.

The other way they are not like us is their contempt for fidelity. One of their big lies is that the homosexual couple stays together for decades and remains faithful. Even that lie is being outed by homosexuals themselves. Just the other day, a homosexual writer in the Daily Beast said he doesn’t know any homosexual relationships that are not “open.” Studies back this up. They are not faithful and have no intention of being faithful.

Gallup, on the other hand, shows that American approval for sex outside of marriage is a measly 6 percent and that is down a point in the past decade.

Those who fight pornography have had difficulty talking about what they oppose. They certainly cannot show it. So, in making their case they are well and truly handicapped. Yet, since pornographers are a uniquely vicious crowd, they do not have purchase on the public’s affection.

In precisely the same way those who fight the radical homosexual agenda are hamstrung. You cannot talk about what they really do. It is simply too gross. You cannot talk about the results of what they really do. Those who fight the radical homosexual ascendancy are further hamstrung by the great affection they have achieved by the cultural and the political gate-keepers, even among those who fight for traditional marriage.

One objection to making the gross arguments or arguments critical of homosexual behavior is that such arguments do not poll well. This may be true but that does not mean they won’t work. Negative advertising almost always works. Moreover, polling usually showed we would lose the state marriage votes but we almost always won them. Polling on this issue is almost always wrong.

Having said that, I agree it is vitally important that the mothers-and-fathers arguments continue. It is also vitally important that arguments continue about the nature of true marriage. But, it is past time to begin speaking some plain truths about homosexuality.

First, they are a tiny minority; a tiny hair on the tail that is wagging the whole dog. Second, in very important ways they are not like us. They are profoundly different and these differences need a public discussion.

This will take a huge amount of bravery and those making the arguments will lose friends. But, if we are ever going to alter the disastrous course we are on, it is the only way.

[DesertRhino]

I’m just thinking back. I remember a time when the things on this thread were basically unknown to normal people. Like literally, unheard of. And I remember going several months without hearing a single new story about anything involving moslems.

Most Americans lived out their life never meeting one.... and basically seeing Omar Sharriff in Lawrence of Arabia.
It was a better time.

[NorthMountain]

Your rationalizations to the contrary notwithstanding, anal copulation is a perversion and mockery of sexual intercourse, and an abuse of the body regardless of who’s doing it. I recommend directing your constant skepticism toward the sodomite propaganda flowing out of the leftist Big Media.

[Hugin]

Polling data shows that most Americans think homosexuals are far numerous than they really are. Gallup shows that most Americans think that 25 percent of the population is homosexual. Among those dim and dimmer millennials, it is 30 percent.

I'm skeptical about that "poll". I see no link is provided to check it out. A search reveals this seems to come from and "open ended survey" (whatever that is) in 2002. That's a long time ago.

[DesertRhino]

Ick,,, disgusting,,, depraved. Degrading in every way. And utterly abnormal for a man and his wife to do. Basically unheard of until the homo spread it to..... apparently to YOUR generation.

I get to judge the living hell out of it. And it appears you didn’t live in Texas even a few decades ago. It was illegal as hell and you know what poofter,,, life was just fine.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Anal sex, wither with a male, a female, or an animal, is still sodomy, and was so defined in dictionaries and in legal codes until just about 15 minutes ago.

As for lesbians, they do not do anal sex (unless they do it was non-bodily penetration objects); but their genital acts are perversion. They are not sexual union, because, by definition, they do not unite the sexss.

[Smokin' Joe]

The 'everywhere' trick was pulled off with the complete compliance, if not enthusiasm of the entertainments media.

The appearance of homosexual characters on television, especially sitcoms, would make their numbers seem more like 15-20% of the population. About the same time that transition was made, humor stopped being funny, with a few exceptions, and instead elicited what laughs it could by being 'edgy' (Nervousness provokes laughter, too, just not the good kind.)

While I won't say some shows are good enough that the requisite homosexual character is tolerated (so long as that is not explicit), for the most part, any show with excess faggotry (open displays of affection) is banned from my house. The BBC got 'edgy' with ads for one show which looked like it would be an interesting concept, and we didn't so much as watch the pilot.

Another show (not sure which network) did the same, and ditto.

Perceptions are molded by such casting (which is not essential to plot development), and tolerances by desensitization to the behaviours, and the media are the vehicle by which both will arrive in your living room.

[DesertRhino]

“one of the reasons for the “normalization” of homosexuality is that so many “straight” men practice the characteristic acts of homosexuals”

If as many straight men as you think participate in this, i’d suggest the opposite is true. Homos pushed their act through the schools, movies, porno, constant discussion, and mainstreamed their sick practice. Then whatever minority of men want to do it up the wazzoo started learning a new thing.

But mostly every school everywhere has been teaching it and severely punishing anyone who says “ick”.
Reason # 86 of why old guys are better fun for you ladies.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I don’t know that it’s “a lot” of straight men. Though it may me somewhat more than the ones who would admit seeking love=love with a plate of beef liver.

[DesertRhino]

You know, I even seem to remember a town called Sodom. Anyone ever find out what they were doing that made god mad?

[Tax-chick]

It could be that the number is exaggerated in popular media, just as the number of self-declared homosexuals is.

[DesertRhino]

I just don’t know. I sure guess that’s the case. I do notice that almost every TV show has one. And its always the smartest, most secure, witty and intelligent one. Usually with high paying or high status jobs.

You’re right. The propaganda is out there. I would have to think it was only common among younger men and convicts and moslems.
Basically anyone that would degrade a woman.

[ConstantSkeptic]

Basically unheard of until the homo spread it to..... apparently to YOUR generation.

My generation? I'm a baby boomer, just turned 63.

[DesertRhino]

Well then ,,,, happy buggering! Oh, and just a hint, I don’t think you’d enjoy Duck Dynasty very much.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Constant, please sit down and breathe deeply until calm returns. 8 - 9 - 10. There.

Nobody is trying to "forbid" the various permutations of sodomy, nor do any of us have the enforcement power to do so unless it involves persons who cannot give legal consent.

What I would like to firmly resist, however, is the "New Normal" strategy of teaching sodomy in school under the auspices of "Safe Sex" and "Sex Ed", mainstreaming it in entertainment, public discourse and the arts, and lying about it in the public health sector so that we may not disparage it or disccourage it as a disease vector.

Anal sex is always a bad fit physiologically, and therefore inherently violative. One of the most humane, enlightneed, and progressive things we can do about it is to stigmatize it.

So yeah, I'll argue with you about this.

It's not just "ick." It's a f***ing perversion and an intrinsic abuse.

[DesertRhino]

Well ya’ll, I’m headed to another thread. Don’t want to think about this anymore before dinner.

[AFreeBird]

Back in high school (late 70’s), I worked in a commercial kitchen, and we gave the gay guy (waiter) grief over going in through the out door. Which in that business, is a recipe for disaster.

Us dumb teenagers figured that was a good metaphor for fag sex as well.

[DesertRhino]

Well I’d sure vote to forbid it. It was illegal in Texas until that 2003 court decision. And I don’t think it was really such a bad thing. You had more freedom there in 65 than you do today.

But anyway, like I said... enough before dinner.

[ConstantSkeptic]

What I would like to firmly resist, however, is the "New Normal" strategy of teaching sodomy in school under the auspices of "Safe Sex" and "Sex Ed", mainstreaming it in entertainment, public discourse and the arts, and lying about it in the public health sector so that we may not disparage it or disccourage it as a disease vector.

Premarital sex happens. 16-year olds have sex. Oral sex happens. Anal sex happens. Burying your head in the sand and ignoring it doesn't work. Telling teenagers to not have sex doesn't work. Telling folks to not have oral sex or not have anal sex won't stop them. I sure don't want teenagers to have sex. And I personally agree with the ick factor of anal sex. However, all of those things happen. So arm people with knowledge. Tell folks why they shouldn't do these things. Stress the realities of having a baby at age 16 or coming down with genital warts. But tell them how to prevent bad things from happening when they make bad decisions!

[Mrs. Don-o]

I’m not against illegalizing all forms of objective abuse in principle, as long as there is a victim willing to bring charges and prosecute. Right now it is not on the political horizon. For my part, I think sodomy -— like abortion -— needs to be, not just illegal, but unthinkable.

[IronJack]

This is the reason they hide their perversion behind a lot of innocuous rhetoric. "Gay," "same-sex," "alternate lifestyle," "open relationships." But what is at the root of homosexual relationships is homosexual sex. And that means men having oral sex with other men. That means men anally penetrating other men and being penetrated. That means men exchanging semen with other men.

And I can get a lot more graphic than that. But those disgusting acts, when presented in all their putrid splendor, should be enough to convince any sane person that homosexuality is a disease, not a mainstream alternative.