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Would Donald Trump Be a Pro-Abortion President?
The Weekly Standard ^ | January 17, 2016 | JOHN MCCORMACK

Posted on 01/18/2016 2:16:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Charles Henrickson

don’t get me wrong, I am a strict constructionist.

However we should not be debating why the house is on fire, we should be working as hard as we can to put out the fire.


141 posted on 01/18/2016 10:02:17 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: PapaBear3625
"Currently, the most important issue is immigration. Nothing else matters at this point."

Well, currently, Trump's against it.

142 posted on 01/18/2016 10:22:17 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means....)
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To: BobL
You may be confused with Rubio, who has promised to “let the good ones stay”

You may be confused, because Rubio plagiarized Trump. TRUMP: Undocumented Workers Can Stay ... BUT ONLY IF THEY WORK HARD (Rubio infringes Trump intellectual property)

143 posted on 01/18/2016 10:25:03 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
Well, currently, Trump's against it.

Yeah, well that's the issue with any candidate: not only "Will they even try to fulfill their campaign promises?", but "Will they be ABLE to do anything about their campaign promises?".

With Trump, you might have doubts he will stay true to his promises, but fewer doubts that he will be able to twist congressional arms if he really decides to.

With Cruz, you can have doubts on whether he will be able to do the necessary arm-twisting. Yeah, he's a great debater. That's not the same as being a great negotiator.

144 posted on 01/18/2016 10:31:32 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: DB; John W

“That’s down right disturbing.”


145 posted on 01/18/2016 10:45:27 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OMorgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

Sorry, mangled comment when I dropped phone and can’ t re-type the whole thing now. Disturbing, indeed.


146 posted on 01/18/2016 10:59:17 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OMorgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Would Donald Trump Be a Pro-Abortion President?

Whatever gets the most applause and adoration.

147 posted on 01/18/2016 11:01:34 AM PST by DungeonMaster
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To: MarDav
Exactly what kind of “deals” do you expect Trump to strike with the current congress? As you’ve pointed out previously, they are a corrupt and broken institution. But they know how to maintain their power (and when to throw it the way of someone doing their bidding). What amazing deals that will bring about the winning I will soon tire of is Trump going to be able to make with them?

But who would you suggest replace Trump??? And don't say Cruz...Cruz hasn't won a single thing in 4 years and he won't win any...Congress will roll over him like a steamroller, that is if he can get enough liberals to vote him into office...

You people are deluded if you think any Democrats will reject Clinton or Sanders in favor of Cruz...Cruz is like Kryptonite to the Democrats...And to the Republicans as well...Who in the world is going to vote for him???

148 posted on 01/18/2016 11:59:32 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

From Art of the Deal: Deliver what is promised. He promised he’s pro-life. He’ll keep his end of the bargain.


149 posted on 01/18/2016 12:01:11 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: DouglasKC

In his 1987 book “Art of the Deal”, Donald Trump put it bluntly: “I play to people’s fantasies. ... I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration - and a very effective form of promotion.”


150 posted on 01/18/2016 12:05:20 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MarDav
Seems you’re blaming the only one willing to stand up to the GOPe for the GOPe’s failures.

What??? That's nonsense...Do you watch any of Trump's rallys???

Trump tells us and them they are ignorant, stupid, corrupt and a whole litany of things...He makes Cruz look like Mary Poppins when it comes to tearing into the status quo...

151 posted on 01/18/2016 12:06:45 PM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In his 1987 book “Art of the Deal”, Donald Trump put it bluntly: “I play to people’s fantasies. ... I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration - and a very effective form of promotion.”

Art of the Deal:

"Deliver the goods." "You can't con people, at least not for long," Trump writes. "You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you can't deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on."

152 posted on 01/18/2016 12:08:54 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: Iscool

Which part was nonsense?


153 posted on 01/18/2016 12:30:59 PM PST by MarDav
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To: patq

Actually the Democrat party changed greatly in the 60’s and he said the Democrat party left him. Not quite the same thing. But you knew that.

In addition, Reagan was the governor of California and developed a strong conservative track record before running for President. When he was elected, no one had to take him at his word that his epiphany was real. He walked the walk.

Your guy has never walked the walk. All talk - and you bit, hook line and sinker.


154 posted on 01/18/2016 1:23:11 PM PST by DB
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To: lodi90

“Trump is a businessman who has dealt with both Dems & Republicans his whole life.”

Yes, he bought them to do his bidding. Says as much. That is illegal. It’s called political corruption. Oh never mind, it was all for a good cause, more personal wealth...


155 posted on 01/18/2016 1:26:45 PM PST by DB
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To: PapaBear3625

Trump hasn’t even begun to be vetted by the left and MSM.

They’re waiting till after he’s nominated and then the can start throwing the mud. If you don’t think Trump is a target rich environment after operating many businesses in New York City, Atlanta, Las Vegas and elsewhere for decades all along buying politicians for political favors then you must believe in unicorns. Paying off politicians is illegal and political corruption. Trump brags about it because it shows who’s in charge, him. It is all about power and furthering his wealth.

You are going to get a rude awakening when he actually is vetted for the general.

Regarding Cruz he’s lead a far simpler life and has a public record. He’s easy to vet. You only know about his “not reported” Goldman Sachs loan because it was reported on other forms he filled out. It wasn’t the result of some hidden investigation.


156 posted on 01/18/2016 1:41:59 PM PST by DB
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To: nickcarraway

Son of a gun, first I’ve seen of that...I was a bit out of it due to family issues right at that time (a close relative died almost exactly then). So it looks like Trump did join Cruz and a few others in coming around on immigration. Hasn’t been brought up much since, I guess.

Won’t stop me though, all of the others have a motive to lie (i.e., needing Big Money), Trump doesn’t...so he still wins, in my book.


157 posted on 01/18/2016 1:57:48 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: nickcarraway

This one I do admit to - we’ll see, he’ll likely win and maybe disappoint us. I’m not sure what Cruz will do, and the others are certainly hopeless.


158 posted on 01/18/2016 1:59:12 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: BobL
Trump doesn't have a motive to lie? LOL. First of all, look at his history.: he says stuff just to get attention and never means it. He has changed positions and parties at a dizzying speed.

Second, besides Reality TV, his core business is as a real estate developer. Their business is based on illegal immigration. He'd be shooting himself in the foot.

Remember in 2012, he criticized his boy Romney, because he was too tough on immigration.

159 posted on 01/18/2016 2:04:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: BlackElk
The only way to end abortion is to appoint a genuinely PRO-LIFE majority to SCOTUS,

I understand what your argument is and I agree completely. Unfortunately the Supreme Court does not work that way. Their function is not to re-write law but to rule on the constitutionality of cases that ultimately make it to their court.

When a candidate is nominated for the court, nobody knows whether they are pro life or pro choice and no candidate will ever reveal their personal biases. That's not the intent of the confirmation process and rightfully so.

One only has to look at the confirmation of Justice John Roberts, who everyone thought was a "conservative". When it came to Obamacare, it turns out he wasn't.

Was that the fault of Bush or the US Senate who confirmed him?

And if I recall correctly, everyone here applauded his confirmation..........turns out we were wrong. That's just the way it is.

As I stated previously, R v W will forever be the law of the land and there is nothing any president can do about it.

So to allow the MSM to constantly bring up the issue of pro life vs. pro choice as they've been doing for the past 30 years in order to cause dissension within the party is something that should be ignored and rejected.

To reinforce my argument, let's change the title of the article to this:

Would Donald Trump Ted Cruz Be a Pro-Abortion President?

Or

Would Donald Trump Marco Rubio Be a Pro-Abortion President?

And as I mentioned before, why has the MSM never addressed the concerns of liberals who just might be pro-lifers? For the record, I know many.............

160 posted on 01/18/2016 2:19:15 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Dear Santa: Please find a home for every homeless and unwanted cat and dog that is suffering)
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