Posted on 01/17/2016 1:57:49 PM PST by Taxman
I was stating a logical breakdown reason where the boat would not be able to go on either engine. A breakdown I don't find unbelievable as I worked with Navy small craft engines and seen a lot happen to them. I was even on duty one night on one when we were following order by the officer and grounded in Vience, Italy. Hey we told him LOL. He had a compass and a map. We had landmarks, had been on duty all day and remembered them, and were experienced.
If someone high up the Chain of Command in a nation far away in a White Hut had knowingly sent a Navy ship into harms way it would not have been a first. Pueblo was such an incident and LTCDR Boucher was not warned of events in NK and that he was being intercepted by NK waiting on him. His ship was about as well armed as those two boats meaning two 50 cals IIRC. I think LBJ welcomed that incident to deflect from his corruption.
BTW I don't fault Boucher nor his crew for Pueblo because The Pentagon ignored and scoffed at his concerns about carrying Classified material and equipment without a means to to a fast and efficient emergency destruction. You have to have explosives to scuttle post WW2 ships. You can't just flood and sink them and DFM is hard to get to burn on it's own.
There was no engine problem !!! They have damned ropes!! Just haul the broken boat back home. This is madness!!
Obama is on his hands and knees, while Valerie Jarrett is standing right behind him.
voluntary capitulation does not result in a coup
Yep, wonder what was delivered?
The last part gets me steamed the most!!!
Just why did we even vote in 2014???
Bunch of GOPe Traitors and LIARS.
I had also considered the possibility of bad fuel, but it just seems unlikely. This whole story is fishy. These people are careful!
Figures.....traitor bastards...!!
Fart in their general direction.
Someday there will be an accounting of the numbers of times 0Obama and Clinton and Kerry and Rice committed treason. Equally noteworthy will be an accounting of the craven GOPe who sat idly by and did nothing. May their descendants be shamed.
That picture needs to be posted a lot more often.
No “mechanical breakdown” or “getting lost”. The whole thing was orchestrated, like the coincidental prisoner swaps, as part of the secret agreements with Iran to somehow justify the Nobel “Peace” Prize for Obama to share with an ayatollah.
vessels, Southack wrote:
Don’t be dumb. Recognize a cover story when you see it.
Riverine craft are literal boats. They don’t patrol blue water.
On the other hand, they do extractions for our SpecOps.
Now, if a pair of riverine boats are on patrol and 1 boat breaks down, the other boat tows it to safety (e.g. out of Iranian waters).
...but...if they are on point waiting on an extraction, then the 2 boats will sit still. No towing.
Those 2 riverine boats transited blue water, sat still on point, and were waiting because their mission was to extract our boys from Farsi Island (probably HALO entry onto the Island).
Since both boats sailed under their own power when the Iranians later released them, it is doubly safe to say that they had no mechanical breakdown.
Nope.
They were waiting on SEALs or NERT to exfiltrate Farsi Island, and they sat there until the bitter end, choosing capture rather than evasion, giving our guys the best possible chance of extraction.
Yes, our sailors on those 2 riverine probably did cry when captured by the Iranians, but not because they were captured...but because they saw something awful happen to the guys they were supposed to extract.
Later, there will be a “training accident” somewhere else in the world to explain the deaths of our boys who died on Farsi Island this week...probably a dozen or so lost. .......
Obastard has sent other seals to their death...this is believable and the GOPe will do nothing.
That is a plausible scenario.
You can see the arms and some of the ammo in videos released by the Iranians. At least a couple of Dillon M134s, at least a couple of M240s, rifles, etc. The boats normally also have an M2 on board, photos of the two captured boats during training in November show the M2s.
The boats have lots of sensors, including radar, etc. so they should have known what was coming long before it got there. And, assuming that both boats were operational, they are among the fastest boats in existence, and have armor that is supposed to withstand the typical AK-47 round.
Great link, thanks.
Before a very serious open-water transit between nations/duty stations, boats are given a NASCAR-level mechanical checkout. They don’t “break down” and if one did, the other just tows it and keeps trucking.
Sorry, but if I am out there and another nation tries to take over my boat, tank or fox hole, it is game on. You do not just throw up your hands and suddenly show your french side by surrendering. I personally believe that just giving up like that is a court-martial offense. What if they had surrendered a top secret weapon’s system when they did that? Just give the enemy the weapon to keep and use to make their own just like it. Like the Iranians did with that drone plane we lost over Iran. And there is no way, NO WAY IN HELL I WOULD HAVE STINKING APOLOGIZED!!!! They would have just had to put a bullet between my eyes. Damn!!! Is that what the homo-za-Zaaa-sion of our military has resulted in????
***but it convinces me that this Idiot in Chief is beyond stupid.
Please tell me you aren’t just realizing this***
Obama is anything but stupid. Evil, yes. Manchurian president, yes. Calculating and manipulative, yes. Stupid? I don’t think so.
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