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In Defense of Ted Cruz’s Quip About “New York Values”
Redstate ^ | 1/16/16 | Josh Hammer

Posted on 01/16/2016 1:45:38 PM PST by TBBT

As a born-and-raised New Yorker finishing up law school in the Midwest before getting ready to permanently take my oversized cowboy boot collection and Gadsden Flag paraphernalia down to Texas later this year, I want to chime in on the “New York values” feud from last night’s Republican Presidential debate. If you did not see this particular part of the Ted Cruz v. Donald Trump brawl, here you go.

The media, being Acela corridor-centric, has naturally tended to take Trump’s side. And yet, as my friend Harry Enten notes at 538, an April 2015 YouGov poll showed that more Republicans (49 percent) said they had an unfavorable view of New York State than said they had a favorable one (38 percent). The Cruz campaign is already fundraising off of the New York Daily News’ shameful front-page cover this morning—a cover, ironically, which itself helps prove Cruz’s underlying point. Indeed, it hardly seems at all obvious that this exchange will end up helping Trump or hurting Cruz on the ground in Iowa, in South Carolina, and in the March 1 “SEC Primary.” But I nonetheless want to put out a few thoughts of my own.

Notwithstanding Trump’s shrewd obfuscation of the underlying critique by nostalgically reverting to Rudy Giuliani 2008 campaign-style braggadocio, everyone listening knew exactly what Ted Cruz meant when he lambasted Donald Trump for exuding “New York values.” This line of attack quite clearly has neither anything at all to do with individual New Yorkers—many of whom are proud conservatives, and even some of whom I know to be close confidantes of Cruz himself—nor anything at all to do with the truly heroic actions of N.Y.P.D. and F.D.N.Y. first responders on September 11, 2001.

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1 posted on 01/16/2016 1:45:38 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

NY Values are to cry 9-11 when someone points out you are a rude liberal.


2 posted on 01/16/2016 1:48:52 PM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: TBBT

And here here, lol.


3 posted on 01/16/2016 1:49:01 PM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: TBBT

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY15n-abbV4Na6SBx8zwtiw


4 posted on 01/16/2016 1:50:33 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (.."THE FORCE AWAKENS"!!! TRUMP; TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP 100%....)
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To: TBBT

This guy writes as if someone might give a sh!t about his opinion. It was painful to read.


5 posted on 01/16/2016 1:53:41 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: TBBT

NYC would collapse without the massive federal money injections/schemes of TARP and QE.

And the massive amounts of financial fraud to which no one is held accountable.

The bubbles with burst eventually.

And then we will see real NYC values - like we saw in the 1970s...


6 posted on 01/16/2016 1:53:57 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: TBBT
New York Values - Curbside Masturbation Booths where Times Square visitors can "relieve stress".
7 posted on 01/16/2016 1:55:03 PM PST by Baynative (If socialist democrat ideas are so good for people why must they be mandatory?)
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To: DaveyB

Don’t you have a white sheet to wash?


8 posted on 01/16/2016 1:56:54 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Baynative
I had a Trumpbot telling me that Houston values are the same as NYC values because Houston had a lesbo mayor. I don't argue with intellectually dishonest people.
9 posted on 01/16/2016 1:58:13 PM PST by demshateGod (Cruz for president! http://www.nationalmemo.com/21-questions-for-donald-trump/)
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To: TBBT
Ted really screwed up doubling down on his New York Values statement at the debate. That was a massive tactical mistake. It was a "youth and inexperience" moment. Ted will have many more of those if he continues to punch above his level.

That said I will not hesitate to vote for Ted if he is the nominee.


10 posted on 01/16/2016 1:58:19 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: demshateGod

And they keep re-electing Maxine Waters?


11 posted on 01/16/2016 2:02:36 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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You're thinking of Shelia Jackson Lee. NY has Charlie Rengel.
12 posted on 01/16/2016 2:04:35 PM PST by demshateGod (Cruz for president! http://www.nationalmemo.com/21-questions-for-donald-trump/)
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To: demshateGod

You’re right - sorry!


13 posted on 01/16/2016 2:05:43 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: DaveyB

Trump is a whiny wuss. Can dish it out but can’t take it. Poor wittle New Yawk bully.


14 posted on 01/16/2016 2:06:05 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: TBBT

A lot of New Yorkers who are supposedly so tough are sure acting thin-skinned.


15 posted on 01/16/2016 2:06:30 PM PST by Fair Paul
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While I like both of these candidates and will vote for the eventual winner of the two, I sense that Sen. Cruz made a tactical error in his assessment of NY values. The topic has no intrinsic value electorally and actually is divisive, something we already have in our current leadership (or lack there-of). IMO, Cruz will never win NY, his opinion in this matter would have better served him had he kept it to himself.


16 posted on 01/16/2016 2:07:30 PM PST by tenthirteen
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To: TBBT

RedState may as well just forward its URL to Cruz’s site.

Zero credibility and probably a pretty dim future as a blog.


17 posted on 01/16/2016 2:07:33 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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Don’t want my sulsa from NY...


18 posted on 01/16/2016 2:09:31 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: TBBT

Cruz ‘apology ‘. Great!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/15/politics/ted-cruz-new-yorkers-apology/


19 posted on 01/16/2016 2:09:58 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Fair Paul

Let’s reverse it for a minute. What would the result be if Trump were to insult Texas?

He wouldn’t, because that would be a huge unforced error. Therein lies the heart of the matter: Trump rattled Cruz, and he made a tactical error both in the debate and in his snarky non-apology.

I’m not from NY, and don’t care about that. It’s the underlying judgement issue with Ted which caused me to stop supporting him long ago. (TPA, Corker, etc).


20 posted on 01/16/2016 2:14:13 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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