Posted on 01/16/2016 7:21:38 AM PST by beebuster2000
the story pushed by the Administration is obviously phony. to believe it, you have to believe:
-both boats lost GPS and all ded reckoning ability
-both lost radio and back up radio
-both lost engine power
-both were lost on radar by the fleet
all of which happening at the same time is flatly impossible.
so, what is the real story?
The whole deal stinks.
pretty good synopsis-
My take-
Iran WANTED to Challenge the O’bummer administration again-
I believe our boats WERE NOT in Iranian space (Iran claims
more than half of the PERSIAN GULF!) and tested us with a swarm of boats- our boats are there to prevent Swarm attacks- etc. they are probably the closest to the Iranian shore- with these Crazies in power no problem to attack-
our BOATS WOULD not retreat- - Mexican standoff—
probably told NOT to fire- or resist boarding-
Next country??-0- the Norks — but THEY will Fire!
How about getting an interview with one of the crew members. My take some doing but it may turn out to be worthwhile.
I know from the photos that the boats were captured during the day, but when did they start their trip to Bahrain?
If they started during the day, or were going to be by that island during the day, then probably nothing was transferred.
Crooked deals happen at night.
That payoff sprung the hostages.
What a world!
that explains the boat breakdown, but what about radio breakdown as well, plus “lost touch with the fleet”, how do you explain that? i can’t believe we don’t have Aegis tracking everything afloat in the gulf, certainly two of our own. how do you explain that? both radios, AND the fleet radar?
The government’s first instinct is to lie and cover their own rear ends...every time.
First the story was one boat ran out of fuel. Then they added ran out of fuel and ran aground in Iranian territorial waters. Then they added that the second boat ran out of fuel. The video of them on deck clearly shows that neither boat is hard aground.
OBVIOUSLY phony story
...and NOBODY in the media is smart enough to ask ANY questions.
My guess is they were covertly transferring some high-value prisoners to Iran as part of yesterday’s prisoner release.
Barry hatched a plan with the complicit navy dolts to hand over our newest craft that operates beautifully in the waters of the middle east to our good friends, the Iranians.
Notice the lone Navy girl was in the corner all the time licking her wounds. I don’t believe it was the Iranians who raped her, however.
Now the Iranians will build their own fast boat and wreak havoc on all shipping. The oil from the Mideast will dry up, our oil companies will be so restricted on what they can pump out of the ground and by what method, thereby achieving Barry’s goal of drying up our supplies once again.
Huge transfers of cash from the bankrupt treasury to solar, wind, and fuel derived from bullshit.
By the time our inept local governments get an increased gas tacked on the pump price will have risen to $5.00 per gallon.
Oh well, we weren’t going anywhere anyway....were we? Stuck in the central socialist government mud once again.
If something was going on as many speculate - it was at the least rated Secret and more likely something above Top Secret CW. No one will talk, even if you found them. So not in their lifetime - maybe on their death beds decades from now, but that is no guarantee. Maybe in the NYSlimes or some reporter will leak, is the best you could hope for ... and that would likely raise more questions than answers.
[The lieutenant that apologized] is not authorized and he should not be apologizing for anything he does while on active duty," Harmer , an analyst with the Institute for the Study of War said. "If he did something wrong, someone in his chain of command will issue an apology." "The American public deserves to know why the United States Navy can not operate professionally in the Persian Gulf," the former naval officer added. "You're not fighting anybody, you're not towing anything, you're not doing a mission, you're just moving from point A to point B."
HF
I appreciate your comments.
IF one of the boats broke down, the other one would have hung around. I don’t think there is much argument there. So, here they are broke down SOMEWHERE and having been in this situation (but not in a hot war zone) I can tell u they were burning up the radio with commanding officers about “g-damnit, are you in Iranian waters” or “what the F EXACTLY is wrong with the fng boat” and on and on.
Meanwhile, the Iranians see their chance and rush in whether in International Waters or not. Our guys ROEs will not let them fire UNLESS fired upon. So, not wanting to get court martialed, they didn’t, and let these bastards get too close and it was game over.
That our guys just surrendered was pre ordained by the WH ROE’s. The cowardly White House, with the nutless/incompetent acquiescence of Top Admirals and
Generals, and a run away JAG Corp, are totally responsible for this humiliation of America.
Then, let’s not forget the Uni Party! Ultimately, American voters elected these worthless bastards so those that voted for these slimes (the 44-47%) are at the top of the responsibility totem pole.
You also have to look back at 1993 with the “Blackhawk Down” incident in Somalia as a possibility.
Clinton wouldn’t send any help and as a result when the US pulled out of Somalia it was viewed by the muslim world that al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden had run the US out with their tail between their legs in disgrace.
Al Qaeda/OBL became the big dogs on the block in the muslim world.
Is Iran going to be seen as the Big Dog on the block in the muslim world now?
Why use 2 boats and 2 crews to deliver something to the sea monkeys? Put it in a diplomatic crate and send it. No need fake an international incident or involve Navy personnel.
Is it possible that the Iranians obtained some codes from a spy to disable the boats, radios, etc? That would make more sense than the nonsense we’ve been hearing.
Good comments!
See my post subsequent to yours to bee buster.
“This phony capture and release was to make Obama/Kerry look brilliant for dealing with the Iranians on the nuclear giveaway. The Democrat media was happy to bow down in admiration for their diplomatic skill, of course. Itâs just another lie to the American people.”
BINGO! And it probably contained a lot of other bennies for Iranians, tech secrets, shaming the US, etc. The Won and Kerry are ashamed of American and want to shame America.
I say “Shame on America for electing this administration and then doing it again!”
I’m also leaning towards an LT screw up. These boats were traveling from port to port...which makes me think that no particular ship was in charge of it, monitoring its position,etc...and they strayed too close to this island. What I don’t understand is why they didn’tnfight back. Their captors could have easily shot them all in the head.
My problem with the whole “CF” is WHY was the U.S. Navy not called instead of calling in the Iranian navy and leading them right to our two boats? Too much bull crap in the whole story and more than likely a phone story to get odumbo to appear to have done something great. So today the Iranians are releasing 4 long term prisoners. Its all BS and there is more to this than any of us will ever know.
This game only costs us $150 Billion to play.
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