Posted on 12/30/2015 2:08:55 PM PST by Kaslin
I wish I could say I'm shocked, but this is New York. It's an anti-gun state. Of course, some local legislators were going to try and regulate the sale of ammunition (via Brooklyn Daily Eagle):
State lawmakers from Brooklyn announced on Monday new draft legislation aimed at tightly restricting the sale of ammunition in New York.
The Senate and Assembly bills were drafted in an effort to keep potential terrorists from stocking up on ammo, according to sponsors state Sen. Roxanne Persaud and Assemblymember Jo Anne Simon. The twin bills are backed by Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, who worked with Persaud and Simon to craft them.
The legislation would place a strict limit on the number of bullets a gun owner could purchase over a 90-day time period, and prevent gun dealers from selling ammunition for a firearm to anyone unauthorized to have such a weapon.
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Since the measure would cap the amount of ammunition to no more than twice the amount of the capacity of the weapon every 90 days, these gun owners would be limited to buying a dozen bullets every three months.
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Penalty for the violation of this law would also be increased from a Class B misdemeanor, or not more than three months in jail and not more than $500 in fines, to a Class E felony, or up to four years in prison with a minimum of one year.
Now, back in the day, I would have said that gun owners and Second Amendment enthusiasts should come to Virginia, but thatâs before Attorney General Mark Herring decided to mess with our concealed carry reciprocity agreements. Nevertheless, there are plenty other pro-gun states to relocate to if you can.
Nevertheless, it goes without saying that this law is just absurd. First of all, anyone with a firearm who is barred from owning one via federal law is, uh, (shocker) breaking the law. Most, if not all, FFL dealers call the local police and the ATF if a flagged person is identified on the NICS system during a background check. So, the ammo provision is redundant. Second, it's a logical fallacy that people who buy ammunition in bulk have pernicious intent. Some people spend an hour or more at the range. Hundreds of rounds of ammunition could be spent during that period.
Since legislators can't ban or confiscate guns, a few are either taxing them out of existence or drafting these nonsense ammo regulations to prevent law-abiding citizens from exercising their Second Amendment rights.
New York already has a so-called assault weapons ban and limits all magazines to ten rounds. It was originally seven rounds, but a judge struck down that provision, viewing it as "an arbitrary restriction" that violated the Second Amendment." Oh, and the fact that seven-round magazines don't exist.
[[How are these purchases tracked? ]]
Background checks to ‘see if the person is eligible to buy ammo’
[[They criminalize, harass and demonize gun owners for essentially being gun owners.]]
Precisely- Murderers are free and clear in ‘sanctuary cities’ but let a country boy, never in trouble in his life, buy 14 bullets instead of 14, and he’s now a class E felon, will be arrested and spend 4 years in prison
[[The Senate and Assembly bills were drafted in an effort to keep potential terrorists from stocking up on ammo, ]]
BS- they know damn well terrorists don’t give a crap about laws- this bill is designed to keep ammo out of the hands of law abiding citizens!
[[The legislation would place a strict limit on the number of bullets a gun owner could purchase over a 90-day time period,]]
Yeah because our constitution specifically forbids buying over a certain amount of ammo per month... oh wait
[[and prevent gun dealers from selling ammunition for a firearm to anyone unauthorized to have such a weapon.]]
And by unauthorized they of course mean that they will ask each potential buyer “Do you plan on becoming a terrorist In the next 10 years?” If they answer yes, then they will be ‘unqualified’ to buy ammo
[[Penalty for the violation of this law would also be increased from a Class B misdemeanor, or not more than three months in jail and not more than $500 in fines, to a Class E felony, or up to four years in prison with a minimum of one year.]]
In the meantime dear leader lets 80,000 VIOLENT criminals go from prison before their terms are up- murderers, rapists, thieves, abusers, pedophiles etc- but by golly NY is going to imprison icky gun owners if they purchase 13 bullets a month instead of 12, and make these people into class E felons so they can never own another gun in their life-
NY is expert in creating burgeoning black markets. Cf., e.g., cigarettes.
Good grief. Liberals are so F’n ignert!
So I sezz to myseff...seff, what's to keep a fella from taking a week off of work for vacation, drive to a state that supports 2nd amendment rights and has no regulation on ammo? Purchase 200 rounds...go back home.
Again...liberals are pretty damn dumb.
When do they build the wall?
This law is flawed. Very few gun owners buy bullets.
After waiting almost two years I finally got 4 pounds each of of VV N320 and 3N37 from Powder Valley.
Never had an ammo issue. Roll 12 boxes an hour on a Hornady turret press.
You can pour your own bullets. - Kitchen table’s good
place to do it.
What’s a Hornady turret press?
You need to buy a lifetime supply of primers and powder due to current Hazmat laws. No one cares about lead and brass now (yet).
I hear their regulation of cigarettes is doing wonders....
They WANT honest gun owners to violate the law.
They want to be able to arrest any gun owner, and if they find a box of ammo in his house that came from a lot # made after enactment of the law, and which did not come from an authorized NY sale, they can put him in prison for years.
The name of the game is to be able to take out anyone deemed “troublesome”, at will.
Now there will be another illicit market, another source of 'criminal' revenue.
Otherwise, people who have concealed carry permits aren't going to be able to shoot any better than the police. Handgun skills are perishable. Only constant practice keeps one adept.
how very true............
Thank you for the photo. Nice setup. - We could do that.
- My gun’s a very old Smith & Wesson revolver; but Fang
has some different ones.
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