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1 posted on 12/27/2015 9:12:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Frank Zappa - I Don’t Wanna Get Drafted

Special delivery ... registered mail ...
you’re gonna hafta sign for this buddy ...
come on out ... I know you’re in there !

I don’t wanna get drafted
I don’t wanna go
I don’t wanna get drafted ... phooey !
I don’t wanna get drafted
I don’t wanna go
I don’t wanna get drafted.

Roller skates in disco is a lot of fun.
I’m too young’n stupid to operate a gun.

I don’t wanna get drafted
I don’t wanna get drafted
I don’t wanna get drafted
I don’t wanna get drafted.

My sister don’t wanna get drafted
she don’t wanna go ... sister don’t wanna get drafted
my sister don’t wanna get drafted
she don’t wanna go ... sister don’t wanna get drafted.

Wars are really ugly
they’re dirty an’ they’re cold
I don’t want nobody
to shoot her in the fox hole
fox hole.


2 posted on 12/27/2015 9:15:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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Hillary The Liar


3 posted on 12/27/2015 9:17:42 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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AS far as I can tell, the GOP is also in favor of this, so Katie Kieffer shouldn’t be loading the blame onto Hillary.

Has anyone heard a single GOP leader speak out against making women sign up for Selective Service? Did any of the GOP candidates mention it during the last (”foreign policy”) debate?

Nope. Not a single question asked about it, and no candidate brought it up. Meanwhile, no objections being raised - that i’ve heard about - from Congress.

So stop blaming Hillary. The entire DC establishment - including the GOP - seems to be on board.


4 posted on 12/27/2015 9:17:56 PM PST by WilliamIII
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You begin to suspect that her story is a political ploy to make female voters think she is pro-woman....

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Nah, say it aint so.


6 posted on 12/27/2015 9:26:04 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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I hope women start having to do the draft registration. That’d wake them up to the ‘war on women’!


7 posted on 12/27/2015 9:27:30 PM PST by TigerClaws
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I say, "let her push it".

Seems to me it will cost her more votes than it will pull in.

8 posted on 12/27/2015 9:31:09 PM PST by Baynative (Liberty lost is a high price to pay for the experiment of socialism.)
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If we are honest about equal rights, then it is obvious that Select Service should require registration and potential draft of men and women. If there is a draft, then both get drafted and the military, like years before, choose where best to place them. No longer is it fair, necessary, or acceptable to register and draft only males.


9 posted on 12/27/2015 9:38:31 PM PST by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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If combat positions are open to everyone, then what possible justification could there be for not requiring everyone to register for the draft?

Since gender apparently has no meaning anymore, same question.


14 posted on 12/27/2015 9:48:16 PM PST by ltc8k6
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In 1975, at the age of 27, Hillary was the newly-married wife of Bill Clinton and a law school teacher when she claims to have been rejected by a Marine Corps recruiter because of her age and because you’re a woman.
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In 1975, the age of 27 was well under the cut off age for enlistment in the US armed forces..

Plus there were thousands of BAMS serving that year..and previously...


16 posted on 12/27/2015 9:53:38 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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I’m all for the Draft - only it must be mandatory for the sons and daughters of America’s top, ohhh, 100 universities.

We tried it last time where these people were exempt - now do the exact opposite.


17 posted on 12/27/2015 9:57:13 PM PST by PGR88
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What about illegal aliens? Will they get a pass since they had to endure so much hardship in their home country and just want “to make a better life for themselves here”?


18 posted on 12/27/2015 10:05:12 PM PST by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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Draft the Senators’ daughters first.


25 posted on 12/27/2015 10:31:20 PM PST by dfwgator
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If Hillary wanted to join the Marines it was for the hookup potential and/or the political advantage being an officer would give her.


32 posted on 12/27/2015 10:46:04 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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139 females have been killed in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and over 800 wounded.
Guess its too late to say no..........


35 posted on 12/27/2015 10:54:58 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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yeah, if there is enough women who support it, i say let it happen but in units segregated by gender so that an all woman unit is totally on its own when TSHTF in a land firefight or whatever. Make them carry their own weight or perish in battle, but don’t sacrifice any men to help with the load under any circumstances. Also, publish this upfront in recruiting offices so the girls get to learn exactly how much shit they can expect to take once they sign up. Ideally the women’s units will sink or swim. those that swim will swim (and more power to any that do) and those that sink will sink (and too bad, war is hell). and no special consideration of prisoners for exchange on the basis of gender which means girls will likely be doing special duty as “comfort women” if caught, and that is perfectly ok since war is hell. if it comes to the draft, hold the policy line on all fronts, since war is hell.

all woman submarines sinks due to general incompetence? war is hell.

woman fighter jets can’t land on carrier and crash because their feet are too short? war is hell.

and absolutely no child support, and absolutely no pregnancy leave, and no honorable discharge for pregnancy reasons. no gender specific considerations at all. war is hell.

i would give it about 3 months during an active war before the political pendulum (no pun intended) swings the other way, as it should. after that, things should be back to something resembling normal, but not until then.


39 posted on 12/27/2015 11:19:33 PM PST by SteveH
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Hillary was the newly-married wife of Bill Clinton and a law school teacher who had recently been fired by Watergate special prosecutor Jerome Ziefman for being an unethical lawyer that conspired to violate the rights of Nixon, conceal evidence from the defense and violate the constitution in numerous ways ...

Minor update.

41 posted on 12/27/2015 11:39:30 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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We’ll never have another Draft. The elites won’t be able to get away with exempting their children ever again.


63 posted on 12/28/2015 6:10:52 AM PST by Wolfie
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For over 40 years, Hillary Clinton has been pushing to put women in combat and now she's close to succeeding "whether women like it or not".

Funny how all the most outspoken idiots for abortion or women in combat are all well past their 'expiration date' (Hillary, Pelosi, Boxer, Steinem, etc)

68 posted on 12/28/2015 7:40:17 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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For over 40 years, Hillary Clinton has been pushing to put women in combat and now she's close to succeeding—whether women like it or not.

Your daughter or granddaughter could soon be compelled to register with the Selective Service at the age of 18 alongside all American males. Today, I'll share what you need to know to confront Hillary and Obama's unconstitutional and unscientific approach to fighting the phony War on Women and the real War on ISIS.

In 1975, at the age of 27, Hillary was the newly-married wife of Bill Clinton and a law school teacher when she claims to have been rejected by a Marine Corps recruiter because of her age and because "you're a woman."

The New York Times reported in 1994 that Hillary: "said that 'it was not an isolated situation' for women to be turned away by military recruiters. And she lauded efforts to bring women into more aspects of military service." Translation: Hillary thinks a woman's place is on the front lines.

Despite the fact that she was zealously anti-war as a college student, Hillary continues to bemoan the fact that the Marines shunned her. You begin to suspect that her story is a political ploy to make female voters think she is pro-woman.

Your Daughter's Draft Threat

There is a very real chance that your daughter or granddaughter would face an equal chance of being drafted as your son and grandson if Hillary becomes president. Besides repeatedly mentioning her Marine rejection story, Clinton persists in praising President Obama—whose administration is pushing hard to put more women on the front lines.

"I'd give him an 'A,'" Hillary has said of Obama's job performance. She recently praised the president as a global "leader" on foreign policy who has her "support" to keep American forces in Afghanistan for what now looks like perpetuity.

Obama's Defense Secretary Ashton Carter is predicted to make a decision in January that would force the Marines to allow women in all combat roles. Far from empowering women, this move is scientifically proven to hurt women.

Ashton Carter, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share one thing in common: they never served in the military. This may be why they dismiss the Marine Corps' 9-month study on the impact of expanding the role of women in combat. The study's results are eye-opening. In nearly three quarters of events (69%), all-male squads outperformed mixed gender squads. Negotiating obstacles, casualty evacuations and long hikes under load were exponentially more difficult for women.

I interviewed a recently-retired Navy SEAL who told me that he would be fine with women joining the SEALs on one key condition: that they be able to pass the exact same tests as the men. Realistically, there is no way to get droves of women to become Rangers, Marines or the SEALS unless we lower our standards.

Women have many wonderful abilities that men lack, including the ability to give birth. But females in the military have around a third less muscle mass and at least ten percent more body fat than the males, according to recent Army data. Men are significantly faster and stronger than women, shows military study after study.

40 percent more women than men who serve in the military today are hospitalized (even accounting for pregnancy). Expect this percentage to skyrocket if more women assume Marine combat roles.

Much ado was made when three women managed to pass Ranger School on their third try. Countless more men—including my own cousin—passed Ranger School without first failing to pass twice. No one in the national media noticed.

We wouldn't ask golf star Jordan Spieth to miss a few putts so as to "equalize" the playing field in a hypothetical co-ed Masters Tournament. Why support poor sportsmanship when the stakes are far higher than a green jacket?

We're at war with ISIS, folks. Thugs who enjoy murdering innocent people via explosive necklace; beheading and suicide bombing. It is unethical to push women into the toughest Marine combat roles knowing they have a 69% greater chance of failure than men. Because, in war, mission failure often means death.

Young Women Say: I Don't Want To Fight

Harvard just released its 2015 poll of Millennial views on foreign policy and the results show that 85% of young people, men and women both, have no interest in enlisting. 62% of Millennials said they would "definitely not" and 23% said they would "probably not" join the military to combat ISIS.

Hillary has no fear of being drafted herself. Nor need she worry about her 35-year-old pregnant daughter Chelsea being drafted if women are forced to register with the Selective Service. And with a draft-dodging expert like Slick Willie for a grandfather, Hillary knows she need not worry about her granddaughter Charlotte.

Your daughters and granddaughters are at risk of being drafted in a war against ISIS that only 4% of young people tell Harvard researchers they would "definitely" consider fighting.

It would be demeaning to both men and women; a waste of taxpayer dollars; and a national security risk to give women shortcuts to the front lines in the name of "gender equality." Or, in the words of the Marine Corps study: "a prescription for failure."

Share this column, educate Millennials about the Clintons' views on foreign policy, and urge Defense Secretary Carter to side with the Marines and keep harsh combat roles closed to women. Don't let Hillary have the opportunity to draft your daughter as she moves up the political ladder.

80 posted on 12/28/2015 10:01:23 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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Don’t let ANYONE draft your daughter ! Let’s not extend this stupid and un-American practice to females as well.

Military service should be 100% voluntary. A free country does not need a slave army !

(From a US Army VOLAR vet.)


85 posted on 12/28/2015 4:02:20 PM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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