Curious that the GOPe loves crossover voters when it serves their purpose, but hate it when it stifles them.
The GOPe, the Draco Malfoy of American politics
Posted on 12/27/2015 3:22:47 PM PST by VinL
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump went on a Twitter tirade Sunday after learning that voters wishing to cast a ballot in the Virginia Republican presidential primary will have to sign an oath affirming they are a member of the party.
It begins, Republican Party of Virginia, controlled by the RNC, is working hard to disallow independent, unaffiliated and new voters. BAD! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 27, 2015
R.P.Virginia has lost statewide 7 times in a row. Will now not allow desperately needed new voters. Suicidal mistake. RNC MUST ACT NOW! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 27, 2015
The voters the Republican Party of Virginia are excluding will doom any chance of victory. The Dems LOVE IT! Be smart and win for a change! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 27, 2015
Trump's frustration likely stems from the fact that he performs especially well among voters who have not declared a party affiliation. In a recent survey by American Research Group, for example, he got the support of 15 percent of registered Republicans in New Hampshire, but 29 percent of those who were not registered with either political party.
Virginia voters are not required to register with a particular party, but with the approval of the State Board of Elections, the Republican Party will be able to ask primary voters to sign a party oath.
The state GOP considered a loyalty oath for the 2011 presidential primary. That pledge would have required voters to promise they intended to support the party's nominee during the general election. State Republicans ultimately scrapped the plan after it came under heavy criticism.
Trump has publicly flirted with the idea of mounting a third-party bid if he feels the Republican Party is treating him unfairly. At the last GOP debate earlier this month, however...
In Mississippi, McDaniel beat Cochran in the high to head GOP primary. But in the run-off, the Cochran/Barbour Gop machine went out and brought in 35,000 Democrat votes- and over ruled the GOP voters.
Is that a system to be wished???
“The state Board of Elections conducted a random draw to determine the order of the candidates on the March 1 ballot with Rubio in the top slot. Trump is at No. 7:”
“If he can not win the Nom with GOP votes, he doesn’t deserve the GOP nomination. Period!”
It’s the loyalty oath that is the problem. I’m not loyal to this traitorous party!
You don't register by party in VA. It is an open primary. When you go to vote in the primary, you indicate what party primary you wish to participate in and they give you a colored piece of paper and you go to the ballot of the party you selected.
This loyalty oath business is just a way to suppress voters. The GOPe is using it against Trump and Cruz. It was not used in 2012 when I voted in the GOP priomary in VA where I lived for 36 years.
yeah I’m sure that was random all right lol
Yikes. That is very scary.
Amazing, eh???? -:)
There is no registration by party in VA. No one knows what party, if any, you belong to. This loyalty oath is new for VA. I lived there for 36 years. It has never been done before.
When you go to vote, you are asked which primary you wish to vote in. You are then given a colored piece of paper and led to the voting machine or ballot with the party you selected. There is no way to verify what party you are in or if you are an independent. If the GOP requires an unenforceable loyalty oath, it will just suppress votes and turn off potential voters. The Dems don't require such an oath.
The GOP should change the law or hold their own primary funded by them. Right now, state taxpayer funds are used to fund the primaries. If the GOP really wants outreach in VA, they should not require a loyalty oath. Trump and Cruz can attract other voters across party lines and independents. In the general election, no loyalty oath is required.
The GOPe in VA would rather lose an election than see a conservative or an outsider elected. The former Rep Lt Governor, Bill Bolling, refused to endorse Ken Cuccinelli, the party nominee for Governor. The GOP mayor of Virginia Beach refused to endorse Cuccinelli. Cuccinelli barely lost.
Is that a system to be wished???
Not at all, but the theory has been that the shoe may be on the other foot for the next cycle.
I don’t deserve to have to pay for the candidate selection function for the two factions of the uniparty. The gop is free to use a caucus or state convention to select their nominee. And they can include or exclude whomever they please. But, as usual, they have their snouts in the public till.
“Virginia voters are not required to register with a particular party
If the GOP wants only registered republicans voting in their primary then say so and pass that law.
And may I point out that is was Haley Barbour and his thugs (butt buddies of Mitch and Johnny) that got Thad the stupid reelected
but the theory has been that the shoe may be on the other foot for the next cycle.
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Yeah... well, Higgs, I think it’s time we ask that they stop switching shoes whenever it suits their purposes.... -:)
Oh, incidentally, I’m from Ct. I’ve been unaffiliated all my life. I can vote in either primary, but I have to first register as a party member of that party— then, after a short period of time, I can go back to unaffiliated.
RICHMOND, Va (WVIR) - Virginia voters interested in casting a ballot in the Republican presidential primary will have to show their loyalty to the GOP.
In the commonwealth voters do not register by a political party, but in order to take part in the March 1 Republican presidential primary voters will have to sign an oath saying they are a Republican before casting a ballot.
On Wednesday, the Virginia State Board of Elections gave the requirement the go-ahead.
"It's not a specific pledge, and, in fact, the way that we designed this statement was to be as inclusive as possible," said Republican Party of Virginia Executive Director John Findlay.
They say under Virginia law the parties can include such requirement, but questions remain about how this will be carried out.
Several election volunteers say the statement will create long lines.
"As an election officer, this will be a nightmare to implement," said Olga Hernandez, of the League of Women Voters.
One state official talked about how burdensome the situation was.
"If they're given something that's between them and the ballot, they get angry," said Lawrence Haake, of the Chesterfield County General Registrar.
Another ongoing discussion will be who has access to the signatures after the primary. For now, officials say they think the forms will be sealed. However the Republican Party wants access to them.
"To be straightforward, yeah, we do want to data mine it, if at all possible," said Findlay.
The Virginia Democratic Party will not be following suit.
Curious that the GOPe loves crossover voters when it serves their purpose, but hate it when it stifles them.
The GOPe, the Draco Malfoy of American politics
Virginia doesn’t have party registration, so if you say you’re a Republican, you are.
HOW would it “deter conservative independents and cross-over conservative Dems from voting for Cruz” if it won’t deter them from coming over to vote for Trump?
I think if you asked the Trump voters, the plurality of them would say Cruz is their next choice. So if Trump were to withdraw, somehow voters who would sign theis pledge to vote for him WOULD’NT sign it to vote in teh same primary for Cruz?
I don’t get the logic of that.
It *would* deter them from voting for Trump.
It would hurt both candidates.
A scrupulous person has qualms about promising they would support the winner even if it’s the likes of Jeb.
Of course it’s not enforceable but scruples are scruples.
Yes, but I think they’re trying to keep non-Republicans out. Of course, they may anticipate that Cruz and Trump voters, and other conservatives, might not want to sign it. Maybe that’s the strategy.
I think they are trying to deter ‘anti-Republican establishment’ voters.
Which includes most conservatives.
After all they shot down the loyalty oath in 2012. When the Dems didn’t have a primary and could cause all the trouble they wanted in the prinary.http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/01/18/gop-asks-board-to-nix-loyalty-oath-from-ballot/
You all can look up my posts to see I am most definitely not any GOPe guy. Sorry if my post came across that way.
I just do not want a shite load of dems to covertly infiltrate a Primary and then run back to hitlery in the general. Similar has happened.
Although I am not a hard Trumpster, will support him and vote for him if he gets the nomination. I just think if he is indeed as hot as it looks he won’t have any trouble getting the nomination without covert dem infiltrators.
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