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To: Helicondelta
Terrorism, gun rights and stopping the illegal invasion are more urgent issues.
2 posted on
12/23/2015 7:57:32 AM PST by
ScottinVA
(If you're not enraged...why?)
To: Helicondelta
How many times will this non-story be posted?
3 posted on
12/23/2015 7:57:35 AM PST by
almcbean
To: Helicondelta
I hate to say it, but it’s not.
Thanks to Anthony Kennedy doing anything about this, IF it is even possible, is going to be a years-long slog.
Meanwhile the country is about to go bankrupt and the society is about do descent into balkanized chaos.
You’ve gotta do triage someplace. This issue, as important as it is, won’t make the Top 3.
To: Helicondelta
There is a difference between the sentiments that a STATE should have the purview over the question rather than our Federal Government and saying (what this article implies) “I don’t care about gay marriage.”
Journalistic trickery, diversion and hypocrisy. They are very afraid of Ted Cruz.
5 posted on
12/23/2015 7:59:22 AM PST by
Gaffer
To: Helicondelta
I would hope that all of us are realistic enough to see, that the Supreme Court decision was a game changer. This issue can no longer be fought state by state, but must be fought in terms of religious liberty.
The Supreme Court decision will not be overturned anytime soon by a constitutional amendment or another Supreme Court decision overturning their original decision.
So you have to ask , how much political capital should be expended. I oppose homosexual marriage as much as anyone here, but have wondered, what comes next after the Supreme Court has ruled. Clearly the legal landscape on this issue has fundamentally changed.
To: Helicondelta
He’s right. Until the Supreme Court is shifted right by the replacement of one or more of the liberal judges with conservative ones, to fight gay marriage is tilting at windmills.
9 posted on
12/23/2015 8:01:08 AM PST by
Blood of Tyrants
(There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
To: Helicondelta
This is beyond hilarious. The media will follow any lead, rumor, innuendo, anything to destroy a Conservative. The Clintons leave a trail of deceit and destruction visible to everyone, but to the media it’s nothing here to see and time to move on.
10 posted on
12/23/2015 8:01:57 AM PST by
dowcaet
To: Helicondelta
Cruz is right - you deal with it by re-enforcing the Constitution.
13 posted on
12/23/2015 8:04:38 AM PST by
skeeter
To: Helicondelta
...and what did Trump have to say?
15 posted on
12/23/2015 8:06:33 AM PST by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
To: Helicondelta
TO TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALS IS EVIL.
![](http://www.sanctuarygc.org/Revelation/artwork/image25.jpg)
This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For
it is written:
For whosoever shall commit ANY of these abominations,even the SOULS that commit themSHALL BE CUT OFF from among their people.
Those who support homosexuals are
against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have
NO sympathy for homosexuals!
Homosexuality is a
"Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked"Why are they [homosexuals] all so angry?"
The answer is in the definition of "
REPROBATE".
rep·ro·bate \ˈre-prə-ˌbāt\ a. [L. reprobatus, reprobo, to disallow; re and probo, to prove.]
- 1. Not enduring proof or trial; not of standard purity or fineness; disallowed; rejected.
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Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the Lord hath rejected them. Jer. 6.
- 2. Abandoned in sin; lost to virtue or grace.
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They profess that they know God, but in works deny him, being abominable and disobedient, and to every good work reprobate. Titus 1.
- 3. Abandoned to error, or in apostasy. 2Tim. 3.
And the reason
"why" is
given in the Bible.
God has
a cure for homosexuals.
But will we OBEY our Heavenly Father?
"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect
that God is just,
that his justice cannot sleep forever."
16 posted on
12/23/2015 8:06:56 AM PST by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Helicondelta
This makes me laugh. Cruz, running as a Constitutional Conservative, makes it clear he would follow the Constitution rather then pander by telling certain interest groups what they want to hear!
I can see where the GOP Establishment would have a gibbering fit like this about a GOP candidate who actually plans to follow his stated principals in office.
17 posted on
12/23/2015 8:07:13 AM PST by
MNJohnnie
( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
To: Helicondelta
Pathetic attempt, even for you.
18 posted on
12/23/2015 8:07:15 AM PST by
CatherineofAragon
(("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
To: Helicondelta
That’s what I like ti hear. Terrorists first, then economy. All those other unimportant things the left is trying to push on us can just wait.
20 posted on
12/23/2015 8:08:40 AM PST by
TribalPrincess2U
(0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
To: Helicondelta
I said it years ago we didn't need gay marriage but a flat tax to treat gays fairly under the code ( without getting into the weeds I saw it 1st hand ), and no one here got it. Now if Ted gets aboard a flat tax that is a ground up redo of the tax code given many gays are entrepreneurs that also face a 35% business tax, bringing that down to the same flat rate ( or eliminating it entirely ) would benefit us all.
22 posted on
12/23/2015 8:10:48 AM PST by
taildragger
(Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
To: Helicondelta
It can become a top priority in year 2,3,or 4 of a Trump or Cruz presidency. Especially after replacement of 1 or 2 Supreme Court justices.
23 posted on
12/23/2015 8:10:48 AM PST by
bramps
(It's the Islam, stupid!)
To: Helicondelta
If this I true, then there are two problems for Cruz.
1) If Trump had said this, you know that the Cruz supporters and bloggers would be screaming bloody murder. There would be thousands of posts of how this PROVES that Trump os a Trojan leftist...blah blah blah. Now they have to either ignore this or spin it as no big deal.
2) Cruz has built his support on evangelicals. People that are almost always looking for an excuse to dump you if you even give the slightest whiff of falling short of their sometimes very lofty expectations. If this I a true statement from Cruz, then expect more than a few to jump ship or stay home.
To: Helicondelta
Cruz's response actually endears me to him further. Yes, the fifty states are designed to be fifty independent experiments with the cream rising to the top where it will to be embraced by the others. And, yes, enforcing the Constitution allows for that and cuts through far more than just three issues. Cruz solves the problem by enforcing the Founders' vision rather than writing new laws. I'd say his solution is the best I've heard to date.
25 posted on
12/23/2015 8:11:20 AM PST by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: Helicondelta
stopping gay marriage? The supremes have ruled. Not sure how one stops it now. A key thing we need now is a conservative President who will pick conservative SC justices. Ted will get that done.
To: Helicondelta
Asked by a Republican gay-rights supporter at a Madison Avenue fundraiser in New York if a Ted Cruz administration would make fighting gay marriage a top priority, the candidate's reply was succinct: "No." Audio of the event, which took place in December, was obtained by Politico's Mike Allen This characterization of what Cruz said has already been debunked on another thread. Cruz said nothing different in this meeting than he has said in public - that he would defend the Constitution, including religious liberty, and that issues such as abortion and marriage should be returned to the states, where the 10th Amendment says they should be.
29 posted on
12/23/2015 8:14:32 AM PST by
CA Conservative
(Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
To: Helicondelta
I would agree....it's not top three. 1) Terrorism...2) Illegal Immigration...3) Gun rights 4) The Economy and run-away spending...5) Traditional Marriage.
So...it's not top three. Stopping the tyranny of big government would stop same-sex marriage.
But...UNFORTUNATELY...what I have found in life is you can't un-ring a bell...and however desired it may be to un-ring the bell of gays in the military and gay-marriage...its going to be almost impossible to do it. There are hills we can die on ...and hills that can wait to die on. That is a hill that can wait to die on....because if we don't fight on these other hills first...we won't live to fight and die on that hill.
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