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It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.
New Republic ^ | December 10, 2015 | BY PHOEBE MALTZ BOVY

Posted on 12/18/2015 11:36:36 AM PST by Lazamataz

Ban guns. All guns. Get rid of guns in homes, and on the streets, and, as much as possible, on police. Not just because of San Bernardino, or whichever mass shooting may pop up next, but also not not because of those. Don't sort the population into those who might do something evil or foolish or self-destructive with a gun and those who surely will not. As if this could be known--as if it could be assessed without massively violating civil liberties and stigmatizing the mentally ill. Ban guns! Not just gun violence. Not just certain guns. Not just already-technically-illegal guns. All of them.

I used to refer to my position on this issue as being in favor of gun control. Which is true, except that "gun control" at its most radical still tends to refer to bans on certain weapons and closing loopholes. The recent New York Times front-page editorial, as much as it infuriated some, was still too tentative. "Certain kinds of weapons, like the slightly modified combat rifles used in California, and certain kinds of ammunition, must be outlawed for civilian ownership," the paper argued, making the case for "reasonable regulation," nothing more. Even the rare ban-guns arguments involve prefacing and hedging and disclaimers. "We shouldn't 'take them away' from people who currently own them, necessarily," writes Hollis Phelps in Salon. Oh, but we should.

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To: Lazamataz

Doncha just love being told what to do by the so much smarter, East Coast, private school educated, U faculty, disproportionately Jewish young people of today? Why, there is just so many of them that are more worldly and experienced than the rest of us (see Slate, Salon, HuffPo, e.g.)

I mean, really.....who could dispute the wisdom of someone with this background:

Phoebe Maltz Bovy is a writer living in Toronto. She is working on a book about the idea of privilege, with St. Martin’s Press. She has a doctorate in French and French Studies from New York University. Her interests include nineteenth-century French Jews, Japanese cooking, and 1970s sitcoms.


101 posted on 12/18/2015 1:53:13 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Muslim silence = complicity. Muslim immigration: END it, can't mend it)
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To: Lazamataz

PS . .and they tend to be, uh, ahem, rather unattractive too


102 posted on 12/18/2015 2:05:14 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Muslim silence = complicity. Muslim immigration: END it, can't mend it)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s Time to Ban Socialists. Yes, All of Them.

Ban socialists. All socialists. Get rid of socialism in homes, and on the streets, in schools and college campuses, and, as much as possible, from government. Not just because of communists and Nazis, or whichever mass murdering socialist regime may pop up next, but also not not because of those.

Don’t sort the socialists into those who might do something evil or foolish or self-destructive and those who surely will not. As if this could be known—as if it could be assessed without massively violating civil liberties and stigmatizing the mentally ill. Ban socialists! Not just socialist violence. Not just certain socialists. Not just already-technically-illegal socialists. All of them.


103 posted on 12/18/2015 2:07:04 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Lazamataz

CHOICE

killed about 3,300 today.

I wonder how many guns killed?

104 posted on 12/18/2015 2:10:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lazamataz

Zatta selfie taken in a mirror?


105 posted on 12/18/2015 2:11:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cicero

She looks like she stinks.


106 posted on 12/18/2015 2:18:13 PM PST by tuffydoodle (Wake up, America.)
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To: GraceG
Then i may just possibly consider giving up ONE of my many weapons....

Do it to Julia...


No; really; I'm glad to give you my gun.

Goodbye now.

Oh; wait. You may as well take this other weapon I have. An old grenade. Watch out for the pin is loose.

YoW!!

Catch!!!

107 posted on 12/18/2015 2:22:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DesertRhino
Just hope they don’t fill it with homos and Obamabots.

After eight years, who do you think makes up the officer corp? And you are right. Once the drones start popping (and eventually, someone in the power structure will use them on US soil, you can count on that), things may start crashing.

But we have been using high explosive drone attacks now for years against people that are very motivated, don't care if they die, and are able to get into our country with ease with little blow back here (that reaches the news). The drones don't have to be flown in the CONUS, they could be contracted out. The people flying the attacks will say "We are just following a lawful order". Yes, if things go that route and continue you get full blown 4GW, and all the lights go out. Then we are talking 10% of the population dead at a minimum in the first few years, and who knows how much later on.

There are way to many keyboard commando's here. Everything you say on the internet is monitored, and what happens after you post something like the above and you end up on the "no fly" list or worse? What happens when the balloon goes up and someone makes a move? Realistically, you, me, and just about everyone on FR or with any badthink emedia presence will be the first targets.
108 posted on 12/18/2015 2:26:57 PM PST by redgolum
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To: mlo
We should just ban murder. Why worry about a particular implement? If we banned murder then nobody would do it, with a gun or with anything else. Because obviously, if we pass a law then that makes it so.

Good idea.. While we're at it let's ban theft and rape. I never thought it could be this easy...but you're right. We'll ban ALL the bad stuff then it won't happen.

109 posted on 12/18/2015 2:33:15 PM PST by GOPJ ("Not all Democrats are horse thieves, but all horse thieves are Democrats" - Ted Cruz)
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To: Lazamataz

Just two days ago I got in an argument with a lib on the Seattle Times website who challenged my claim that many leftists would like to ban guns entirely. Well, “sonnyd” - you lying POS - here is ANOTHER example.


110 posted on 12/18/2015 2:45:51 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Lazamataz

The next article says “What you need to know about Saturday’s Democratic debate”

I’ll tell you...

1. No one will be watching.
2. Hillary will WIN!!!


111 posted on 12/18/2015 2:49:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lazamataz

Let’s experiment with the proposal.

Fence off Detroit, confiscate every gun that can be found, and check for results.

Plan to be unexpected.


112 posted on 12/18/2015 2:52:41 PM PST by lurk
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, I would love to see what army would have to be assembled to confiscate your arsenal.


113 posted on 12/18/2015 2:56:35 PM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: Lazamataz

Bovy wrote an article called Why Men Get Away With This.
It is about lack of grooming and BO in men. This article illustrates the kind of males she grew up with, went to NYU with, associates with at venues such as The Atlantic, Huff Po, The New Republic and the kind of male she dates.


114 posted on 12/18/2015 3:06:27 PM PST by Rockpile
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To: Mears

It was shortly after the war when people had a very close association with American Values and number one of them was respect for our Servicemen and our way of life. The fifties were the end of a beautiful feeling when somebody said “American.” The 60’s and 70’s were the beginning of the slide into AntiAmericanism and Communism thanks to the likes of Jane Fonda and John Kerry who were and are Traitors!


115 posted on 12/18/2015 3:14:17 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Red Steel

Long past time to bring back cap pistols and Cowboys and Indians.....make that Cowboys and Muslims.


116 posted on 12/18/2015 3:16:08 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: The Toll

She isn’t a woman, she’s just a stupid female!


117 posted on 12/18/2015 3:18:28 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Elsie

[ Then i may just possibly consider giving up ONE of my many weapons....

Do it to Julia...

No; really; I’m glad to give you my gun.

Goodbye now.

Oh; wait. You may as well take this other weapon I have. An old grenade. Watch out for the pin is loose.

YoW!!

Catch!!! ]

The whole point of my response was that there is no way whatsoever they could ever meet my conditions as it would be impossible, and even then i would only even somewhat half heartily consider and then only one, but since they would never meet those initial conditions then it will never happen.

Re-read my post please.


118 posted on 12/18/2015 3:42:38 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Elsie

Also forgot to add that maybe you should quote MY ENTIRE Post from which i was trying to make a RHETORICAL POINT!

But, hey, much easier to make a cheap shot there.

If you don’t get what a Rhetorical point is, perhaps I should add this disclaimer next time (you know to simplify things and alleviate any confusion you may have in the future).

!!!!!ATTENTION THIS POSTER IS MAKING A RHETORICAL POINT TO PROVE A BIGGER POINT OR TO DECONSTRUCT A COMMON MISCONCEPTION IN CURRENT CULTURE!!!!

[[[[[

If she could 100% no, 1,000,000% Guran-frickin-tee me that she was able to disarm all Criminals, both citizen criminals and alien criminals in the ENTIRE WORLD, and all Governments in the ENTIRE WORLD, FIRST and keep them disarmed for 100 years....

Then i may just possibly consider giving up ONE of my many weapons....

Until then she can go pound the sand in the little sand box she plays in during her recess time in kindergarten.

]]]]]]

!!!!!!ATTENTION THIS POSTER HAS MADE A RHETORICAL POINT TO PROVE A BIGGER POINT OR TO DECONSTRUCT A COMMON MISCONCEPTION IN CURRENT CULTURE!!!!


119 posted on 12/18/2015 3:51:16 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Lexinom

She looks like the psycho ex girlfriend who accused me of being a member of Aryan Nation.


120 posted on 12/18/2015 4:18:27 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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