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I agree with Cruz, not Trump, on this, but when 46% of people support a ban on Muslim immigration, Trump is not out of the mainstream.

To state the obvious, if only 1 out of a thousand Muslim immigrants is a terrorist, admitting 1 million Muslims means admitting 1000 terrorists. You can believe that the vast majority of Muslim immigrants will be law-abiding and still be concerned about Muslim immigration.

1 posted on 12/10/2015 12:32:27 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

No thanks. I agree with Trump, not Cruz.

The vast majority of Muslim immigrants are here with expired visas, or as “faux refugees”


2 posted on 12/10/2015 12:35:44 PM PST by o2bfree (DNC = RNC :-)
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>> Trump is not out of the mainstream.

What’s the opposite of “politically tone deaf”? “Politically perfect pitch”?

Whatever it is, Trump has it as much as Bush lacks it.

And it’s driving the media and the GOPe nutz. I love it.


3 posted on 12/10/2015 12:36:01 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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Cruz needs to wake up on this. Trump is right. Would any freepers invite guests into their homes if there were a strong possibility that some were genocidal murderers? Of course not. Then why would we invite possible Jihadists into our country without a good vetting process? This is really a no brainer, unless you suffer from the mental illness known as: Political Correctness (otherwise known as Cognitive Dissonance)


4 posted on 12/10/2015 12:40:06 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Left to me, I forever ban Moslems from this country.

Sharia and our Constitution do not mix.


6 posted on 12/10/2015 12:40:33 PM PST by onyx
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Forget Gun Control, we need Jihad and Sharia Control.


7 posted on 12/10/2015 12:42:55 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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Start here!!


8 posted on 12/10/2015 12:43:20 PM PST by QT3.14 (USA is facing assisted-suicide by the Left)
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Trump knows this is a can’t lose position to take.

-Most likely voters support this.

-It positions him to garner more support whenever a terror attack occurs anywhere in the world.

If there are no major terror attacks between now and the election then that’s WONDERFUL!

If there are terror attacks then Trump’s numbers rise.


9 posted on 12/10/2015 12:44:14 PM PST by Bobalu (Even if I could take off, I could never get past the tractor beam!)
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The other candidates will lose a LOT of support if they’re so sure Trump is wrong...they go around running their mouths.


17 posted on 12/10/2015 12:48:25 PM PST by capt. norm (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat!)
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Hehehe...this is driving the GOPe., the MSM, and the DNC batty. And well it should.

The fact is the American people are tired of the BS.

Regarding the proposal by Trump to temporarily halt all Islamic entry into the United States, there is a lot of hype, misinformation, ignorance, and out and out lies being circulated in an attempt to slam Trump.

The people see this...but a large number absolutely agree with Trump.

So, what is the truth of the matter? Is Trump's proposal illegal? Is his proposal un-Constitutional? Is his proposal un-American?

Well, please read the following.

8 US Code 1182 (Section a. Number 10, Paragraph f.)
Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, the president may, by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

This is in the U.S. Code of Laws. It was passed by Congress in 1952 and has been the law of the land ever since. And, by the way, at the time it was passed by a Democratic Congress.

So, to be clear, if the President determines that murders/killers/enemies are infiltrating any group of people to do harm to America, he has been given the power by Congress to stop or restrict that groups immigration or non-immigration status and ability to come into the country by proclamation. This is precisely what Trump has proposed…and for obvious reasons.

It is NOT un-American, it is U.S. Law.

It is NOT un-Constitutional, Article 6 Paragraph 3 of the U.S. Constitution regarding no religious test refers specifically and only to the election of Congress...not to immigration.

As President, Donald Trump would have full legal authority under U.S. Law to do exactly what he has proposed.

All of the hype, outrage, and statements to the contrary are either political grandstanding, abject ignorance of the law, or willful lies regarding the issue.

19 posted on 12/10/2015 12:51:39 PM PST by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Well, let me put it this way.

If found out that arsenic had gotten into your water supply, and there was a 1 in 1000 chance every time you drank your water that you would either be severely injured or die from it...would you keep drinking the water?

would you keep bringing that water into your home?

Of course not.

You would put filters on the water that you absolutely knew would keep the arsenic out. You would then check it very regularly to be sure there was no arsenic...and until you did, you would get good water from elsewhere.

The way I see it, Trump is proposing filtering potentially dangerous water coming into our nation. Even if 99,99% of it is good, until you know where the other is...or are sure it is not there at all...you would have to stop the inflow.

21 posted on 12/10/2015 12:56:45 PM PST by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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And Trump did not really propose a ban on all Muslim immigration. Only a pause to figure out what is going on and how to manage it.

Not unlike Paul Ryan’s vaunted “pause” on accepting Syrian refugees.


22 posted on 12/10/2015 12:58:36 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Moderate muslim:

Def: - One that wishes a radical muslim will cut your head off.

23 posted on 12/10/2015 1:01:35 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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Is this the same senator Cruz who was pushing for 500% increase in foreign workers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHlGlNwsQb0

Is this the same senator Cruz who wants a path to legal status for illegals?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI&feature=youtu.be

Is this the same senator Cruz who voted to facilitate passing of Obamatrade?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/ted-cruz-channels-paul-ryan-a-lot-of-misinformation-on-obamatrade-that-you-can-get-on-the-internet/

But I do not blame senator Cruz. His hands are tied by his rich donors. Such as $11 million donation from just one rich donor, Robert Mercer.


25 posted on 12/10/2015 1:22:36 PM PST by entropy12
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A simple question for Cruz, and I am not a Cruz hater,

Why isn’t Cruz supporting the law that is on the books re not opening our immigration doors to bad people/

Like with gun control, we don’t need more gun control laws we need to control and monitor evil like the two jihadists who killed 14 and injured as many last week. Then do something to prevent them from mass murder.

Per existing federal law at 8 USC 1182:

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to appropriate.

Current laws banning admission to the US, and not requiring new laws. Just need someone like Trump to have them enforced:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title8/html/USCODE-2011-title8-chap12-subchapII-partII-sec1182.htm
gpo~government printing office:

No admission for any alien for Security and related grounds

(3) Security and related grounds
(A) In general
Any alien who a consular officer or the Attorney General knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, seeks to enter the United States to engage solely, principally, or incidentally in
(i) any activity (I) to violate any law of the United States relating to espionage or sabotage or (II) to violate or evade any law prohibiting the export from the United States of goods, technology, or sensitive information,
(ii) any other unlawful activity, or
(iii) any activity a purpose of which is the opposition to, or the control or overthrow of, the Government of the United States by force, violence, or other unlawful means,

is inadmissible.
(B) Terrorist activities
(i) In general
Any alien who
(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;
(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));
(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;
(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of—
(aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)) or
(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;

(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi)
(VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;
(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;
(VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,
is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title8/html/USCODE-2011-title8-chap12-subchapII-partII-sec1182.htm Security and related grounds

Rush Limbaugh discusses how Jimmy Carter used this law to expel thousands of Iranians.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3370465/posts

Trump’s “Nutty” Proposal Is Already the Law of the Land
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | December 9, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Over here, everybody in the establishment in the political class, Republican, Democrat, media, you name it, is all claiming that what Trump said is dumb, stupid, reckless, dangerous, unconstitutional, while it is the law of the land. And it was utilized by Jimmy Carter, no less, in 1979 to keep Iranians out of the United States, but he actually did more. He made all Iranian students already here check in, and then he deported a ton of them.

There is precedent for everything Donald Trump has said he wants to do. And if you listen to the wizards of smart in this country and our political establishment, you will think that this stuff is just unheard of, it’s almost unspeakable, it’s just indecent. Here we have in the establishment the reputed best and brightest, the smartest. We’re not even qualified to be in their company no less. And they’re dunces on this.

In November the 1979 United States attorney general had given all Iranian students one month to report to the local immigration office. Seven thousand were found in violation of their visas, 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the United States, 1979. When this law, inadmissible aliens I just read to you, which I’m gonna be reading a lot to you today to the point you’re gonna get tired of hearing it, but you won’t forget it.

Please send this to fellow conservatives, media outlets and to liberals, who need a whack in the head with reality of how their President Truman signed this law and later Carter used it to get rid of a lot of potentially dangerous Iranians.


28 posted on 12/10/2015 2:13:12 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama has groomed CAIR to be THE voice of Islam in the USA as a dangerous political force in the USA)
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That’s 20 per state.


30 posted on 12/10/2015 3:47:15 PM PST by This I Wonder32460 (Being an American citizen is more than just having US citizenship.)
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Bump....


31 posted on 12/10/2015 9:04:59 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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