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1 posted on 12/10/2015 7:24:08 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 12/10/2015 7:24:29 AM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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A muslim is a muslim is a muslim.

We all know the difference between a moderate muzzie and a fanatical one, so in the long run, they’re all the same.


3 posted on 12/10/2015 7:28:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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Are the people they shot dead? On what grounds can one make this assessment? Is it just because of the holes punched in their bodies? The pools of blood they were found lying in? What about the funerals being conducted for some. This is shoddy evidence, at best.


4 posted on 12/10/2015 7:29:42 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This space for rent.)
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Meanwhile, the Planned Parenthood shooter was obviously Christian, both from a media standpoint, and from the breast-beating perspective of the various Christian outlets. The key difference is the lack of introspective mea culpa lamentations from Muslim sources after a terror attack.


5 posted on 12/10/2015 7:30:03 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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The fact that someone can be “radicalized” after being raised in the USA should give us pause about Islam and Muslims. The truth - according to my SIL who read the Koran in Arabic - the holy book of Islam is focused on “radicalizing” Muslims toward violence and dominating those around them.

It is as though this is 1961, and President Kennedy wants to bring millions of communists in from Russia to show his good will. The difference is that the USA would have told Kennedy to go to hell, if Kennedy had been dumb enough or anti-American enough to have the desire.

Now, even most of the GOP candidates are worried that restricting Muslims from immigrating is “mean”...

For myself, I’m thinking it is time to tell the GOP to “Go to hell”!


6 posted on 12/10/2015 7:30:04 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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Maybe because they prayed to Muhammad and Allah?


7 posted on 12/10/2015 7:31:04 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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I have consistently held the position that:

Obama is right: There is no such thing as Radical Islam
There is only Islam.

Just Mom and Pop Islam that requires the imposition of Sharia Law on every human being. Many and perhaps most Muslims accept the idea that force may be required to impose that requirement. That force may cost you and me our our finger-tips, our heads and our lives. That too is acceptable to hundreds of millions of Muslims world-wide.

Just good old Mom and Pop Islam.


8 posted on 12/10/2015 7:35:22 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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“On what grounds exactly can non-Muslim Westerners presume to pass this judgment?”

Excellent question!

We should probably ban all muslims from entering the country until we figure that out.


9 posted on 12/10/2015 7:37:20 AM PST by fruser1
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Anyone who would adhere to the vile quran is an enemy of Freedom and Liberty.
10 posted on 12/10/2015 7:38:58 AM PST by onedoug
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Stand here and judge:

11 posted on 12/10/2015 7:39:18 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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bfl


12 posted on 12/10/2015 7:56:48 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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Does it then mean that the nearly 25% of self proclaimed American Muslims who believe in violent Jihad for the advancement of Sharia and to resolve insults to their prophet are not truly Islamic? If so then the ‘true’ Muslims here need to inform us who the ‘fakes’ are so we can expel them.................waiting.


13 posted on 12/10/2015 7:58:19 AM PST by yadent
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17 posted on 12/10/2015 8:44:22 AM PST by COUNTrecount (Race Baiting...... "It's What's For Breakfast")
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Syed Farook and his wife had indeed been "radicalized," but, we are assured, theirs is a "perverted" version of Islam.

Radicalized, schmadicalized. They are the true face of Islam.

18 posted on 12/10/2015 8:53:18 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Some interesting observations. Yes, even as we pass from this stage of radicalism, we will still have core Islam. Judging from islamic societies today, it will be difficult to reconcile islam to the world of western values.


20 posted on 12/10/2015 10:30:49 AM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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21 posted on 12/10/2015 11:00:51 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg)
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Big question: How does one radicalize?

What is the process, what does it take, and when are you radicalized enough to fit the qualification of being radicalized?

Who determines the degree of radicalization, ultimately, the media?

Can only Muslims be radicalized? Do other people have to radicalize you? Does the person have to be connected to a known terror group to radicalize you?

Or can a book, sayyyy, the Quran, radicalize you? If you read it “wrong?” How do you read the Quran without becoming radicalized, and what were the mistakes the radicalized did, to get radicalized from a book that would NEVER radicalize a good Muslim??

And maybe most important of all, is radicalization like Alzheimers, which can only be accurately diagnosed posthumously? “He must have been radicalized” because he blew himself up with a bomb?

If you cannot tell until after the terror is committed whether a Muslim is radicalized, how will the TSA and ICE ever know?

We need to know more about this mysterious process of “radicalization.” If the media uses this term, we need it explained and every question above answered.


23 posted on 12/10/2015 11:18:49 AM PST by Yaelle (Trump Cruz 2016)
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Are you a modern Rip Van Winkle? Have you been sleeping since before 9/11/01???

There certainly has been enough evidence in the past 20 years of the intents of Muslims.

Perhaps when YOUR house & family are attacked by Muslims, you will finally understand.

I don’t need to get bitten by a rattlesnake to know how dangerous they are.


25 posted on 12/10/2015 12:55:43 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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I fart towards Mecca. They bow towards Mecca five times a day. I don’t eat pork or camels. They don’t eat pork but do eat camels. I don’t kill people for insulting Islam. They do kill people for insulting Islam. Ergo, I am not a Muslim. They are.


26 posted on 12/10/2015 1:05:17 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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They thought they were Muslim enough to bet their souls and lives on it. Yet leftist apologists who most likely never read the Qu’ran say they were not.

I suspect the devout Muslims know more about Islam than the irreligious atheists.


27 posted on 12/11/2015 12:15:05 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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