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Turkey: Why Muslim Nations Shouldn't be Part of NATO
American Thinker ^ | 12/01/2015 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 12/01/2015 2:16:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind

With NATO member Turkey's recent downing of a Russian aircraft sparking fears of WWIII, a rather politically incorrect question needs to be asked: should a Muslim nation have NATO membership?

Having a country as part of the NATO alliance is no small matter. Since an attack on one member nation is considered an attack on all, an escalation of the Russian-Turk crisis resulting in military action against Turkey by Russia could, conceivably, lead to a WWIII. This is why it's imperative that NATO members be rational actors.

As to this, I have a theory about the shoot-down of the Russian plane. It's just a theory, and admittedly it's "probably" not the explanation in this case. Yet I think it's worthy of consideration, especially since it could be a factor — and a profoundly dangerous one — at some point in the future.

When Turkey was admitted to NATO in 1952, the Cold War was ramping up and the nation was relatively secular. Today, however, it's well known that Turkey has been Islamizing and that its president, Recep Tayyip ErdoÄŸan, is an Islamic supremacist. Also note that Turkey was the location of the last great Islamic caliphate, the Ottoman Empire. And some think that just as Benito Mussolini wanted to resurrect the glories of the Roman Empire, ErdoÄŸan and others want to reclaim the far more recent Ottoman dominance.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agitprop; astroturf; nato; paidrussiantrolls; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianstooge; russianstooges; turkey; vladtheimploder
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1 posted on 12/01/2015 2:16:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Muslim nations shouldn’t be part of the world.


2 posted on 12/01/2015 2:19:21 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

NATO has expanded to the point of being stupid and useless. Turkey should be kicked out, but many of the newly joined members should be dumped, not because they are like Turkey, but because they bring nothing to the table but liability. It’s not a daycare.


3 posted on 12/01/2015 2:20:00 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Beat me to it.


4 posted on 12/01/2015 2:20:34 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, kick um out!


5 posted on 12/01/2015 2:25:07 PM PST by Bogie
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To: SeekAndFind

Then even more Muslim nations would join Russia’s Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO). Russia already has several Muslim nation members. Not good.


6 posted on 12/01/2015 2:39:23 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Kick Turkey out. For supporting ISIS is one reason.


7 posted on 12/01/2015 2:43:18 PM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nato was meant to keep the Soviets out and Germany down, and Turkey being allied to Germany should have been kept down too


8 posted on 12/01/2015 2:43:50 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: SeekAndFind
NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
9 posted on 12/01/2015 2:44:40 PM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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To: SeekAndFind
To some extent this current wave of Islamic militancy and savagery is a recent development - recent being in the last 50 years or so.

As an example consider the changes militant Islam has brought to Afghanistan.

The thumbnail photos below depict Afghanistan in the 1950's.
It was semi-modern and western then and nowhere near as regressive as it is today.

The Taliban and other militant muslims have set Afghanistan and the mid-east back 800 years or more.

To see full size photos just search Google for "Images for Afghanistan in the 1950's".


10 posted on 12/01/2015 2:49:06 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: SeekAndFind

Muslims are less than maggot excrement.


11 posted on 12/01/2015 2:52:24 PM PST by Original Lurker
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To: SeekAndFind
The only justification for having Turkey in NATO is geography. Air bases near southern Russia. Control of the Bosporus.

Russia's seaports are all surrounded: Black Sea ports cut off at the Bosporus; Vladivostok surrounded by Japan; Baltic ports cut off at Denmark; northern ports like Murmansk cut off by ice and weather

12 posted on 12/01/2015 3:01:04 PM PST by omega4412
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To: SeekAndFind

 

NATO Members

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Bulgaria

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Croatia

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Czech Republic

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Denmark

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Estonia

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France

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Germany

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Greece

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Italy

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Latvia

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Lithuania

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Netherlands

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Poland

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Portugal

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Romania

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Slovakia

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Spain

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United Kingdom

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Canada

 

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Turkey

 

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Austria

 

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Republic of Cyprus

 

Sweden

 


13 posted on 12/01/2015 3:06:58 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: SeekAndFind
It is time to give Turkey the boot. At one time it made some sense to have Turkey in the alliance. Not now. They are allied with out enemies, the Caliphate.

In fact, one could make a case they will become the head of the Caliphate before too long. The secular Turks are disappearing fast.

14 posted on 12/01/2015 3:25:45 PM PST by Gritty (The Barbarians Are Inside, And There Are No Gates. So screw the candlelight vigil. - Mark Steyn)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

As I remember it, Turkey was the other half of the 1961 Cuban Missile crisis. The U.S. based nuclear tipped missiles in Turkey aimed at Soviet Union cities, so the Soviet Union based nuclear tipped missiles in Cuba aimed at U.S. cities and this forced the U.S. to agree to remove our missiles from Turkey if the Soviet Union would remove theirs from Cuba.

My, how times have changed.


15 posted on 12/01/2015 3:51:43 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Gritty

If the uniparty is in power, the US will be allied with Muslims. The more radical and hateful, the better.


16 posted on 12/01/2015 6:27:19 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

which of the newly joined members do you want to toss out?


17 posted on 12/02/2015 8:06:07 AM PST by Cronos (Obama�s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad�s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Mosl)
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To: Cronos

All the unnecessary ones. Coalitions can be agreed to on a case by case basis. There is no need to have a pre arranged defense agreement with everyone. We don’t know what the issues are yet. NATO should be a coalition of larger countries for world stability and regional security, not world dominance and NOT so they can offer their military services to all the small countries of the world. They can case by case. Too big is too dominate and it undermines the purpose of stability.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. (Quoting somebody or other)

I am no one important so don’t let my opinions worry you.


18 posted on 12/02/2015 8:57:10 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

well, NATO’s aim is to contain Russia. Or it WAS


19 posted on 12/03/2015 2:02:33 AM PST by Cronos (Obama�s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad�s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Mosl)
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To: Iron Munro; The Ghost of FReepers Past; drop 50 and fire for effect; BigEdLB

The Taliban’s ideological ideas come from Saudi Arabia’s Wahabbi philosophy which the Sauds have been exporting for the past 60 years


20 posted on 12/03/2015 3:07:37 AM PST by Cronos (Obama�s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad�s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Mosl)
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