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Colorado shooter politically motivated, said ‘no more baby parts’ after attacking PP
Washington Post ^ | 11/28/15 | Peter Holley, Sandhya Somashekhar, Lindsey Bever and Wesley Lowery

Posted on 11/28/2015 5:35:48 PM PST by Timpanagos1

The gunman suspected of storming a Planned Parenthood clinic and killing a police officer and two others told the officers who arrested him “no more baby parts,’’ after being taken into custody, according to a law enforcement official.

The attack on the clinic was “definitely politically motivated,’’ the official — who has been briefed on the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity because it is still unfolding — told The Washington Post. NBC News, which first reported the comment attributed to suspect Robert Lewis Dear, said Dear also mentioned President Obama in a range of statements to investigators that left unclear his precise motivation in targeting the clinic.

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To: Jack Straw from Wichita

What is your proof that it was not first intended to be a bank robbery?


161 posted on 11/29/2015 11:35:34 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Jack Straw from Wichita

Sorry, not the Gazette but KKTV. And he may not be the boyfriend, as the article references a wife.

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Family-Identifies-Victim-in-Planned-Parenthood-Shooting-358094491.html?device=phone&c=y


162 posted on 11/29/2015 11:37:00 AM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: Timpanagos1

Other than there is no mention of it by any credible source, i.e., police, Mayor Suther, DA May, no one. All witness statements I have heard or seen online indicate no bank robbery.


163 posted on 11/29/2015 11:40:07 AM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: Jack Straw from Wichita
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3365536/posts
164 posted on 11/29/2015 11:48:55 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Timpanagos1

Check his signup date.


165 posted on 11/29/2015 11:49:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Your point?


166 posted on 11/29/2015 11:53:19 AM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: Jack Straw from Wichita

The story in the link you posted clearly says “shootings NEAR Planned Parenthood.”
And there is no mention in that story of anyone connected to Stewart getting an ultrasound. Please give a source for that detail.
Words matter.


167 posted on 11/29/2015 12:08:39 PM PST by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: Timpanagos1; Jack Straw from Wichita; DJ MacWoW
I think the confusion stemmed from early witness reports, witnesses that because they saw some LEO cars in front of the bank when they first heard the gunshots, assumed it was a bank robbery.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/27/active-shooter-co-springs-planned-parenthood-clinic-officers-injured/

Fox News Channel and The Gazette report witness accounts that claim the shooting at the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic actually began at a nearby Chase Bank location.

Fox News talked on-air to a witness at a nail salon near the Planned Parenthood clinic who "first thought [the incident] was a bank robbery." Cell phone video captured by the witness appeared to show a Chase Bank branch as the first location where law enforcement moved in.

The witness said the suspect ran from the bank to the Planned Parenthood clinic.

The Gazette reported:

Denise Speller, manager at a nearby haircut salon, said she heard roughly 10-20 gunshots in the span of less than five minutes. She said she saw a police cruiser and two officers outside near Chase Bank, not far from the Planned Parenthood facility. One of the officers appeared to fall to the ground and the other office knelt down to render aid, then tried to get the officer to safety behind the car, she said. Another officer told Speller to seek shelter inside the building.

Note that one witness quoted was inside the hair salon, and the other inside a nail salon, (same place?) not inside the bank. She "thought" the bank was being robbed because that's where she saw the first police car - the one she could see from inside the salon from her vantage point. Also note that the first responders where outside "near" the bank which is also near the PP. Also one of the witnesses claimed to see him "coming from the bank" but that could have been misreported and might have been "coming from the direction of the bank".

Where are any witnesses from inside the bank - tellers or customers, who saw this guy come in and try the rob the bank first? Most banks have surveillance cameras so I would expect there would be video of the prep inside the bank trying to rob it. Also bank robbery is a federal offence so the FBI would be in charge of the investigation if it were a bank robbery attempt gone bad.

168 posted on 11/29/2015 12:13:00 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
I think the confusion stemmed from early witness reports

No. On the very first thread on this the reports were from police scanners.

169 posted on 11/29/2015 12:18:58 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: mumblypeg

My theory is that he could have shot two pro-lifers outside the clinic that were trying to discourage people from going into PP and then ran into PP. there is a mostly clear field of fire between PP and Chase bank.

This story is very strange, especially since they’re not releasing any info about the dead and injured victims, other than the LEO that died.


170 posted on 11/29/2015 12:22:02 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Beautifully stated. Thank you.


171 posted on 11/29/2015 12:27:21 PM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: smokingfrog

One of the two civilians has been identified, not by CSPD, but by his family. The Gazette and KKTV have confirmed that Army veteran Ke’Arre Stewart was killed when Dear opened fire at PP.

http://m.gazette.com/army-veteran-was-one-of-victims-of-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-shooting/article/1564543


172 posted on 11/29/2015 12:32:11 PM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: smokingfrog

Family members tell 11 News that Jennifer Markovsky is the third victim who was killed in the Planned Parenthood shooting on Friday.

WWW.KKTV.com


173 posted on 11/29/2015 12:34:40 PM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: DJ MacWoW
I understand that but those early police scanner chatter could have been as the result of people calling the police thinking it was a bank robbery because Dear parked his car nearer to the bank than the PP and hadn't yet entered the PP. It is not unusual for police scanner chatter to be confused and get things wrong early on.

Again, if it were bank robbery gone wrong, I would expect there to have been witnesses from inside the bank. Where are they?

Also "The official told CNN that propane tanks were found in the area of Dear's car in the parking lot, and that authorities believe he was trying to shoot them to cause an explosion." That's not the MO of a bank robber.

174 posted on 11/29/2015 12:43:55 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
Sorry but I'm not buying the MSM's carefully crafted crap sandwich.

Aaron Gardner - Colorado Police cannot confirm "baby part" quote from Dear

Also:

Post 12

Here’s a broadcastify audio of the first 30 minutes. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiwu0Q46ZhI
Not many people have listened to it on that link, 8,000 views. I don’t think many people are aware that Dear wasn’t inside the building during the first 30 minutes when police were on scene and on the scanners. In this audio the first shooting victim was at Elite Vision, the building in front of Planned Parenthood.

175 posted on 11/29/2015 12:52:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Jack Straw from Wichita

https://m.facebook.com/jennifer.markovsky/about


176 posted on 11/29/2015 12:53:38 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Very sad.


177 posted on 11/29/2015 1:03:53 PM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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https://twitter.com/cospringsmayor/status/671044601977962496


178 posted on 11/29/2015 1:19:05 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
The three victims that were killed were NOT at PP

At least one victim, Jennifer Markovsky, was shot while at PP supporting a friend, who was shot in the hand.

179 posted on 11/29/2015 1:22:19 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: wrench
And yet he was up on current events, was able to obtain a truck, weapons and ammo, and move half way across the country.

Slick trick for a bum living in a shed......

Ted Kaczynski graduated from Harvard and got a PhD in math from the U of Michigan. There is no shortage of brilliant whack-jobs.

180 posted on 11/29/2015 1:27:54 PM PST by cynwoody
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