Posted on 11/27/2015 12:45:38 AM PST by tcrlaf
According to Turkish media, Ankara halted the flights of its aviation over Syria.
ANKARA – Turkey has suspended its Air Force flights over Syria in the international coalition campaign in the fight against the Islamic State after the downing of the Russian Su-24 Fencer bomber, Turkey's Hurriyet newspaper reported Friday, citing diplomatic sources.
On Tuesday, a Turkish Air Force F-16 downed the Russian bomber 4 kilometers from the Turkish border. Both the Russian General Staff and the Syrian Air Defense Command confirmed that the Su-24 never crossed into Turkish airspace and was shot down over Syrian territory, citing precise objective control data.
(Excerpt) Read more at sputniknews.com ...
I think all of them see ISIS as an asset. Assad wants all his opposition destroyed so only him and ISIS (or I call it Daesh as they hate that name) remains. Turkey wants to kill PKK. I am not okay with killing Kurds, but PKK is a subset of Kurds, who are communist terrorists.
That would be close to the truth of it, yes.
Add to it our own government creating ISIS, and supporting them with weapons funneled through initially Libya.
So Turkey is admitting it was violating Syrian airspace and attacking the Syrian Kurds
Not willing to go up against the S-400 and a very motivated Russian Air Force
Lol! Russian parliament is proposing penalties on anyone who denies the Armenian genocide
Zingggg
Erdogan is doing the strutting poodle:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3365444/posts
Yes guess who helped to orchestrate this setup by Turkey as a step toward escalating war between Russia and NATO aka USA
The next step was to have a US plane downed and blame Russia
Plan BUSTED
Paging Senator John McCain, your bellicose rhetoric has been strangely missing for the past few days... Also several of your senate colleagues from the left coast
It’s the YPG who are doing the heavy lifting on the Syrian border, with extensive Russian support
“Add to it our own government creating ISIS”
Leftist lies! Obama did help in creation of ISIS, but only because he withdrew from Iraq before the job was done!
YPG are commies. Peshmerga Kurds are non-commies and they have also posted several successes.
Obama supported them with weapons via Benghazi.
They were the “rebels” he was arming.
Yep...Sputniknews is on par with the Washington Post.
“I am not okay with killing Kurds, but PKK is a subset of Kurds, who are communist terrorists.”
PKK are not terrorists; their communist ideology has evolved and has gradually been altered to being more secular. Problem is we often fail to keep up with times. Sure, they’ve terrorized & terrorize the Turks in Turkey, but the Turkish govt started it by killing them first. So they took up arms to return fire.
Since Turkey is in NATO and ‘Kurdistan region’ is not, and Kurds as a whole don’t actually have a land or country of their own, it’s politically much more acceptable for us to compartmentalize the Kurds as we like, and dismiss PKK as “communist terrorists” or “terrorists” in general.
Incidentally, it was the same PKK Kurds helping Peshmerga and YPG Kurds rescue Yazidis when ISIS was attacking and killing Yazidis. In reality, even if the U.S. doesn’t want to have any association with PKK, when push comes to shove, PKK, YPG and Peshmerga do pull together, at the very least in sharing intelligence.
Not sure about that but
Even if so, Assad can better live with commies who will be satisfied to have their own autonomy than with sharia wailing head choppers who want an international caliphate
I think the rest of us can, too , given the choices
Maybe that’s why obama is putting boots on the ground in Syria this week to try and woo Syrian Kurds with US advisors
My fear is the Russians shoot down an American aircraft when we fly a mission or let their proxy, either the Syrians or others, shoot a US craft down.
Time for Obama to go!
I think perhaps Putin would be wise to "sit out" Obama and wait for the Trump/Cruz administration.
How did W's group say it in 2000? "Help is on the way!"
Isn't it grand we elected a President that with his weakness; has brought us to brink of a major war?
Russia was requesting to exercise its rights under international law to overfly the border to verify troop movements against its ally Syria
” Open Skies” treaty
Turkey of course not cooperatung given the plethora of terrorist camps and weapon supplies moving into SYRIA
The U.S. has claimed right to overfly Russian and Belarus territory to monitor movement near UKraine in exercise of this treaty - check out Open Skies treaty
My fear is that “ the plan” MUST go forward
Erdogan screwed up part A by shooting down a plane that either wasn’t in Turkey or that spent 17 seconds crossing a mile of turkish claimed territory during a bombing run in Syria
however there MUST a tit for tat downing of a U.S. plane that must be blamed on Russia, and there are plenty of outsider mercenaries willing to take the assignment ( can you say UKraine) - which is currently facing a long cold winter without Russian gas and would love to widen this conflict to draw in the US even deeper
Will Erdogan risk trying to bomb Kurds, with Russian AA sites protecting Kurdish forces?
So they are admitting to unauthorized flights over Syrian airspace. We knew this but they are confirming it.
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