Posted on 11/24/2015 5:37:27 PM PST by markomalley
Turkey shot down a Russian warplane for violating its airspace Tuesday, but the Turkish air force does the exact same thing several times a day in Greece.
Turkey was quick to defend its action by stating it issued 10 warnings over the course of five minutes before firing on the plane.
“The data we have is very clear. There were two planes approaching our border, we warned them as they were getting too close,” a senior Turkish official told Reuters. “Our findings show clearly that Turkish air space was violated multiple times. And they violated it knowingly.”
But the Turkish air force doesn’t seem to be too careful about entering Greek airspace, according to numbers from the University of Thessaly. A tally shows the Turks committed a total of 2,244 violations in 2014, up from 636 in 2013.
The Russians did not take the matter lightly and President Vladimir Putin called the action from Turkey “a stab in the back.” He further warned of serious consequences for the action that he believes was made by “the accomplices of terrorists.”
President Barack Obama said Russia and Turkey needs to investigate what happened before taking any further actions against one another.
“I think it is very important for us to right now make sure that both the Russians and the Turks are talking to each other and find out exactly what happened, and take measures to discourage any kind of escalation,” Obama said at a joint press conference with French President Francois Hollande at The White House.
Thanks for posting that.
You are welcome.
This has the smell of Obama. We just know it.
And Greece is not a terrorist state. Russia is.
for later
Erdogan the hooligan routinely violates Greek airspace.
Erdogans kid is oil running for isis, and is mad russia blew up the last shipment.
Actually greece and turkey have had recent hot wars and are in a long cold war. They hate each other.
Good points.
Also, we find out now the jet was hit inside Syria. The ‘moderate rebels’ murder the pilots who had parachuted.
Obama won’t ‘go it alone.’ I think Putin is going to unleash holy Hell on the Turkish border and the rebels / U.S. backed ‘moderate Jihadists.’
We are playing a dangerous game here instead of fighting ISIS.
Prime Mobster Erdogan must be furious about the lost revenues from oil convoys that Russia attacked. There is the loot lost from current shipments, future oil the trucks could have carried plus the vehicles themselves.
The Russians cannot get too aggressive with Turkey because of the Dardanelles.
A bit of indirect action with deniable actors such as finding the Turk general who commanded the shootdown and blowing him into orbit with a car bomb; taking out the F16 pilot if they can ID him; blowing up some planes on the ground Viet Cong style or whatever subtle ideas they can come up with.
Russian strikes will get fighter escorts now.
I wonder how much payola Erdogan is sending our Loser in Chief.
Just my two dinars.
Just to let you know so you don't run out of gas sometime when you rent a car in Canada or Europe, 1 km is just over 0.6 mile.
>>>>>The Russians cannot get too aggressive with Turkey because of the Dardanelles.<<<<<<<<<
Blocking international waterway is casus belli. Turks would not dare. Again, if Russia retaliates, NATO can not invoke Chapter 5. So, no point in doing it.
Ruskies could use cyber strike teams to syphon off Erdogan’s wealth stashed around the globe and channel it to finance PKK and let Erdogan know. Also, creating havoc for Turkish economy. Russian FM advised Russians to stay away from Turkey, probably to prevent hostage situations after the payback. IMHO, this will not end well for Turkey.
I think Erdogan and his clan are so crooked they almost make a Clinton look honest.
The cyberware idea is great. Siphoning off their bank accounts and re-routing them would be really sweet.
You know, I wonder how much the Turkish Army has been politically cleansed. Have read that there are generals who hate Erdogan’s guts. A coup would be stimulating.
You know, I wonder how much the Turkish Army has been politically cleansed. Have read that there are generals who hate Erdogan’s guts. A coup would be stimulating.
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