Posted on 11/24/2015 4:08:12 AM PST by kristinn
I have a strong dislike of the current fashion among American's decrepit and unreadable newspapers for "fact-checker" columns, because the practice attempts to cloak run-of-the-mill hacks in an aura of dispassionate authority that they do not, in fact, possess. Case in point: The Washington Post's Glenn Kessler, who has awarded "four Pinocchios" to Donald Trump, for claiming to recall seeing "thousands" of Jersey City Muslims celebrating on September 11th 2001. Mr Kessler wrote:
Trump says that he saw this with his own eyes on television and that it was well covered. But an extensive examination of news clips from that period turns up nothing. There were some reports of celebrations overseas, in Muslim countries, but nothing that we can find involving the Arab populations of New Jersey.
Kessler has spent the day re-writing and re-re-writing that confident assertion. As of now, that last sentence currently reads:
There were some reports of celebrations overseas, in Muslim countries, but nothing that we can find involving the Arab populations of New Jersey except for unconfirmed reports.
When Kessler says "nothing that we can find", he didn't have to search very hard. After a two-minute Google search, Powerline's John Hinderaker turned up the following:
In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners' plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.
What demented fringe conspiracist website would traffic in such nonsense? Well, in fact, it was Glenn Kessler's own newspaper, The Washington Post, which published the story on September 18th 2001. Is it an "unconfirmed report"? Well, Kessler's colleague, Post reporter Serge Kolvaleski, said in a 2003...
(Excerpt) Read more at steynonline.com ...
We live in modern times. The ability to prove these things with cameras/video recorders existed in 2001. This controversy about Muslims celebrating in the streets of Jersey City (I originally heard Patterson) has been around for over 14 years. So far no proof.
Here’s the deal. FOX and other cable news outlets will often show loops of supportive footage that are not exactly associated with the story they are telling at the moment.
For example running video loops of syrians flooding across Europe while reporting on Syrians coming to the US.
Are you in the pay of ISIS or Obama?
Again, remember what Trump actually said...he saw them on TV. There is no way he could have actually seen them. If he did, a video record would exist.
Oy vey schmeer
With all due respect....you are behind. catch up.
The ability to prove these things with cameras/video recorders existed in 2001
It also existed prior to the creation of earth. Perhaps not cameras as we know them, but the ability to record history. When all is said and done, man will know that the final judgment of God is based on grace, mercy, and unalterable incontrovertible inconvenient truth.
What this has to do with Trump claiming he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City on 9-11.... I have no idea. I am not asking to engage in a philosophical or religious discussion. I simply am asking for evidence, not here say.
...and what I am saying that you find not to your liking and not understandable is that sometimes you just aren’t going to get what you think you should, and that does not mean that what Trump claims is not true, in addition I wonder just how important proving the particular fact you take issue with is? You think it will have any bearing whatsoever on his poll numbers. Maybe you think it should. Frankly the nation is looking for an Obama wrecking ball and I think they have found him.
As for the rest of your point, I think it's very risky and downright scary to vote for somebody only because you think he can win. I understand people's anger; the last 7 years have been a train wreck. Putting a shoot from the hip demagogue in the White House isn't the answer.
And, in the interest of full disclosure, I am a Ted Cruz guy. But I do so on the issues and not because he appeals to my anger.
We all saw pictures of Muslims celebrating. You just don’t like Trump, fine, you are a good little globalist tool. The GOPe thanks you for attacking the only candidate that might be able stop the DC gravy train.
As for the rest of your sophomoric ad homs about "globalist tool" and GOPe, I guess that is how it rolls on the internet these days. If you are unable to prove your point, then go in with the personal insults. Though the left does this far more than we conservatives do, your post shows we are not below stooping to such tactics.
And for the record, I support Ted Cruz. Not because I think he is the only one who can beat Hillary, but on his ideas. And also for the record, the GOPe absolutely hates Ted Cruz. You are right in that they don't want the DC gravy train to stop. Their guy is JEB.
Which explaining the all the praise the DC/NY media is pouring on Cruz these days /s
More to the point the DC/NY media is NOT the GOPe. They didn't support Romney, McCain, Bush or Dole. They are about as anti GOP as you can get. Even when the GOPe candidate is running, the DC/NY media will never support them. Remember how afraid they were of Reagan circa 1979? They are using the same language about Cruz and to be fair also about Trump.
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